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Old 06.12.2010, 20:02
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

In the latest update, Postfinance has frozen Assange's account, as he apparently falsified information when opening his account.

Guess he saw too many 007 films and assumed that they wouldn't ask questions...
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In the latest update, Postfinance has frozen Assange's account, as he apparently falsified information when opening his account.
Leaving him with only 150 CHF?
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Old 06.12.2010, 21:15
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

For all you know, he could have applied to the Swiss Embassy in UK for protection / asylum to avoid arrest, and for a safe passage to CH.
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

Will he get asylum: http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/switze...um.shtml?22139

What the Pirate Party President thinks of all this: http://worldradio.ch/wrs/news/switze...-f.shtml?22140
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Old 07.12.2010, 11:38
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

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For all you know, he could have applied to the Swiss Embassy in UK for protection / asylum to avoid arrest, and for a safe passage to CH.
For all that we know is there an international arrest warrant for charges that are not linked to wikileaks, but sexual harrassment.

While I fully agree that it does sound too much of a coincidence that a guy with paranoia would do something that stupid in the one country he actually planned to hide in: I am pretty sure that a Swiss embassy does not give asylum to criminals trying to avoid charges - he could only get asylum for political persecution, so he would have to be able to prove that the Swedes are trying to trick him into prison with those sex claims for what he is doing at Wikileaks. While I always love a good conspiracy theory: Nobody can seriously believe that the Swedish justice system (of all countries) is a willful helper for that sort of thing... just look at how fair (and slow) they treat pirateay.org...
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Old 07.12.2010, 11:42
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

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I am pretty sure that a Swiss embassy does not give asylum to criminals trying to avoid charges.
Would it help if he was a renowned film director?
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Old 07.12.2010, 12:25
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

That's not really correct is it? Polanski was put in house arrest until a Swiss court decided whether or not the warrant was valid under Swiss law if I recall correctly.

And I am actually expecting something very similar to happen to Assange in the UK. I expect Assange to be in a lot safer hands in the UK than in Sweden to be honest. If he is extradited to Sweden he will be handed over to the Americans in a flash I am afraid.



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Old 07.12.2010, 12:29
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

this just in ( altho not up on the news site yet )

-- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange has been arrested in London, CNN confirms.


EDIT. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11937110
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Old 07.12.2010, 12:31
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

Unfortunatelly, that may very well be the case. Sweden has a pretty dirty history of helping CIA.

In the specific case of Assange it is interesting to see how quick they were to place an Interpol warrant. There have been other criminal offences in Sweden lately where the obuser e.g., although captured on film, was not persecuted since he was a foreigner having already left the country and it would "be impossible to get a hold of him".

I believe Sweden at the moment have 11 Interpol warrants out, of which all of them, apart from Assange, refer to violent crimes like murder and manslaughter.

This article sums up pretty well what underground media in Sweden is discussing about the case.


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so he would have to be able to prove that the Swedes are trying to trick him into prison with those sex claims for what he is doing at Wikileaks. While I always love a good conspiracy theory: Nobody can seriously believe that the Swedish justice system (of all countries) is a willful helper for that sort of thing... just look at how fair (and slow) they treat pirateay.org...

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Old 07.12.2010, 12:40
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Unfortunatelly, that may very well be the case. Sweden has a pretty dirty history of helping CIA.

In the specific case of Assange it is interesting to see how quick they were to place an Interpol warrant. There have been other criminal offences in Sweden lately where the obuser e.g., although captured on film, was not persecuted since he was a foreigner having already left the country and it would "be impossible to get a hold of him".

I believe Sweden at the moment have 11 Interpol warrants out, of which all of them, apart from Assange, refer to violent crimes like murder and manslaughter.
Isn't he wanted for questioning with regards to rape? Perhaps our definitions differ, but I consider that to be a violent crime.
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Old 07.12.2010, 12:49
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

That is right on spot!!! A rape in Sweden doesn't have to have any element of violence at all! If a woman feels she doesn't want to have sex and the man doesn't pick up on her feelings and goes on with the sex-act, it is considered rape. I.e. there is not even the need for a verbal no. If she felt abused, then it is abuse in the current interpretation of the law in Sweden.

In the case of Assange it seems to be that the women, long after the act, realized that they felt abused by his behaviour and then decided to go to the police. I.e. there was, if information is correct, never any elements of violence what so ever involved. After the act, but before the police reporting, one woman went out to get breakfast rolls and then had breakfast with Assange. The other woman happily Twittered away about her great evening after the act.

If you get pissed of at your/a guy and want revenge, accusing him of rape is a fool-proof way to get him into deep trouble in Sweden. Something a lot of men in Sweden are experiencing. Unfortunatelly not with the same media attention as the case of Assange.

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Julian Assange arrested

An Ass Hang!

Thank goodness for that.

Hopefully this will be the end of his "escapade"

Imagine AlQueda using his info & hitting one of those places on the list

We would feel it here in Switzerland & plenty other places too

Maybe then his supporters would realise what they have caused.
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An Ass Hang!

Thank goodness for that.

Hopefully this will be the end of his "escapade"

Imagine AlQueda using his info & hitting one of those places on the list

We would feel it here in Switzerland & plenty other places too

Maybe then his supporters would realise what they have caused.
Who's AlQueda?

And yes, I think everyone should get back in their dark little boxes, like little mushrooms and wait to be fed some shit when we've been good.

Hopefully Julian Assange is just the beginning of a long overdue consideration of how things are done.
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Who's AlQueda?

And yes, I think everyone should get back in their dark little boxes, like little mushrooms and wait to be fed some shit when we've been good.

Hopefully Julian Assange is just the beginning of a long overdue consideration of how things are done.
Yes, and hopefully we'll now get the code for the Insurance file...
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

Latest news: He is arrested in UK

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/wikileaks
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Old 07.12.2010, 14:17
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Imagine AlQueda using his info & hitting one of those places on the list
What places? We are talking about the leaked embassy reports. There are no places of interest in there so far... actually I read hardly anything of interest. I literally read nothing new except that the Turkish prime minister has secret Swiss bank accounts and that the Brazilians helped the US more than it might have been legal by setting up terror suspects for drug crimes... Which is why I question still weather or not wikileaks is holding back all the really interesting ones or if the stuff was planted to reason an upcoming conflict with Iran.
The Swedish cases stinks up to here, so I hope that a good judge will do his job and really question all the witnesses and uncovers the motives behind the entire thing. Tilias article was an interesting read and makes me believe that a capable judge could turn this into a new desaster for the US bigger than the actual leaks so far.
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Re: Wikileaks -OMIFGOD, lots of drama (Update: Site now on a Swiss domain)

WikiLeaks supporters and hackers hit PayPal and PostFinance with DoS attacks for anti-WikiLeaks behavior, the group is also targeted in a DoS counterattack. SOURCE
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This article sums up pretty well what underground media in Sweden is discussing about the case.

In the whole scheme of things, what does a charge of "Unexpected Sex" carry? It seems easy enough to prove that the charges were trumped up, if he gets a fair trail.

Kinda funny that the woman pressing the "Unexpected Sex" charge is a gender equity officer at Uppsula University. Isn't Uppsula a local expression for "Oops"?

Anyway, the fact that they got him on a rape charge, yet no charges in regards to divulging secrets suggests he is being character assassinated.

Would you agree to locking him up even if he hasn't actually broken a law?
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