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Old 07.01.2011, 23:06
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Dioxins in eggs ...

How come the EU and Germany seem to be so casual about this - when levels are 77 the maximum dose ...

Or have I missed the fact that these are really not the cancer causing dioxins ...?
Why was there not a recall?

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Old 07.01.2011, 23:13
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

I don't see how they are being casual about it when more then 4700 farms and industries have been closed for prevention. And I am not talking about all the call back on products they are making...
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

How long has it been in the system?
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Old 07.01.2011, 23:19
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

EU are not being casual about this. It's a huge affair, and has been reported a few days ago. I am not on top of the news but they think it came from the chicken feed, right? I just got back from Prague and we pitched all German products containing eggs. Nobody is buying it. I think I am going to stay away from Aldi and Lidl for a while. Blech, dioxins. I wonder if I should get me and fambli checked.
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

That isn't on Germany and EU to blame but on those who knew it and didn't say something. When they found out, the mesures where taking right away.

Someone, somewhere messed up something, intentionally most probably. Lets see!
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Old 07.01.2011, 23:52
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

Well right now, Germany has been reported back home for manufacturing thousands of tons of chicken and pig feed with high levels of dioxins (they used illegally some oils made for biofuel). Eggs and pork products are being recalled. Apparently they exported to Holland and Britain, but the recalls are done all over, in CZ and SK just as I was there. This huge scandal is pretty much all over Germany, just look at the search. They manufactured since march, it was stopped in December, when authorities found out. I am off German food for a while, me thinks.
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

Is this a problem with Swiss eggs? Only eggs are a part of my daily basic nutrition. I got scared about high cholestrol from eggs when they got such bad press but after a while I went back to eating one nearly every day.
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

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Is this a problem with Swiss eggs? Only eggs are a part of my daily basic nutrition. I got scared about high cholestrol from eggs when they got such bad press but after a while I went back to eating one nearly every day.
Swiss info says CH is ok. But I am not sure how it's checked here, how thoroughly, it is super expensive to rigidly check, etc. But if I trusted anyone with what they feed their animals, it would be here. Apparently, it is quite common to find all sorts of crap in free range animals that are being raised on previously contaminated land or animals that are fed with some mixes with oils or animal proteins (powder they add to feed). I generally avoid beef, goats, sheep, horses, wild game since they could have fed on some toxins, but that's a habit I carry from back home. With pork being questioned I guess we stick to Swiss pork and cut down portion size since it is so expensive.
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

I truly hope so because I'd find eggs harder to give up than any meat product. Maybe it was because when I was young and we couldn't afford much meat, eggs were such a big part of my mums cooking.

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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

Eggs are great, we eat them almost every day too, since our kid is a little obsessed. I'm hooked on hard boiled, I really hope they are fine. I guess we just have to follow the TV news and papers closer for some info.
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

They say that it is dangerous only if eating a great quantity. But what is a big quantity? a chicken once a week? Or few pieces per week?
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

This is quite an interesting link - the Rapid Alert System for Food and Feed

The Swiss Health Authority (Bundesamt für Gesundheit) has released a statement regarding this issue - sorry, only in German. Here it is, anyway (click on title "Dioxin in Lebensmittel in Deutschland".
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Re: Dioxins in eggs ...

All this is due to producers and consumers literally trying to shave-off pennies off the cost of eggs.
There's clearly no finger-pointing necessary.

The "acceptable level" of dioxin in eggs is apparently 3 picogram per gram of fat.
http://www.spiegel.de/wissenschaft/m...7972-4,00.html
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The lethal dose [1] is not known but rats apparently die with 20 micro-gram per kg of body-weight. 1 micro-gram is 1 million times more than a pico-gram.

So, there's not so much to worry about immediately.
But dioxin is also known to enrich itself in the body-fat-tissues. So, what you consume will mostly stay within your body and thus it makes sense to minimize the daily intake as much as possible.
Eggs with a 77-fold of the allowable dose don't help.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2,3,7,8...odibenzodioxin

[1] the wikipedia article mentions that Viktor Yushchenko had a level of dioxin in his blood that was 50000 times the level of the average population. Without the help from doctors in Vienna he would probably have shared the fate of Alexander Litvinenko.
The German version of the above article contains some more detail and made me realize that this subject is very much more complex than the headlines in the press make it seem. As usual.

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