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Old 14.01.2011, 18:53
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There has always been a ' third world' in America. It's not new, but so much has improved and continues to improve under this presidency. You can't throw the baby out with the bath water. Certainly corruption is endemic in Washington has been for centuries and govt. keeps expanding with the population growth, so it's getting bigger and bigger. It is difficult to root it out.
Indeed, this 3rd world has existed but it's been increasing in size at an alarming rate over the last decade...And corruption being endemic and difficult to root out isn't cause to celebrate the minor achievements of a President who has barely given a glimpse of the leader he espoused to be...When did celebrating mediocrity become so necessary?


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Do I think that the tea party will make the Republican Party worse- Yes! So do many Republicans, civil discourse is just impossible. I sat with a Republican McCain supporter lawyer yesterday and we both agreed, he was really disappointed that Obama cancelled his visit and couldn't wait for him to reschedule and to get to meet him again. He said that he was a little disappointed in McCain as of late and I agreed, but I also stated that at least McCain is not spouting this vitriolic rhetoric to which he fervently agreed- couldn't stand the Tea Party.
Agreed, Tea Party is a loco version of the red party...And McCain?...Come on, he's already shown us what sort of person he is - there's nothing new there and his 15 min are up

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I have many Republican friends and sorry to say, but the educated ones are so embarrassed by the Tea Partiers. Idealistically I am a Tony Benn person, but this is America land of great corporations who, on balance have brought prosperity and wonderful people. I still love the US and all its diversity. I continue to fight to bring it back to the left and others will fight to bring it back to the right, the extremists should remain extremists.
There is a lot to love about the US but there is a gap between what we believe US to be or have been and what it has increasingly been turning into...It's an increasingly polarized, conservative, closed and aggressive society...This despite minority numbers increasing while the white ruling minority that rules on most levels seems to get further and further removed from reality

I am concerned for America, obviously, if for no other reason than the US is the world's strongest superpower...Even in an economic crisis like at present, whatever the US does reverberates across the globe...So a prosperous and healthy US benefits everyone...I just don't see that Hollywood ending coming anytime soon, I suspect it will get worse still
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Old 14.01.2011, 19:01
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do you not see the irony in your posts? Your ranting about politics and how bad the president is either side of the post about the little girl being buried.
This...This is what routinely gets me about US society by and large...We get swept up in these Kodak moments and the take home message is supposed to be 'We're America and we can come together and persevere'...It's a photo op much like 'Ground Zero' etc...They're merely excuses to switch your focus from what is really at the forefront...One day it's the 9 year old girl shot, another day it's Lacey Peterson, Chandra Levy, the girl down the well etc...We love a good story where everyone can get up at the end of the film and clap

Reality is not like this

I see what happened in Arizona recently (Who have pretty liberal gun laws) and I simply continue to ask, 'Why do we need all these guns?'...But, hey, gun control will land in the bin and instead we'll institute some special holiday for the attack and remind ourselves every year about how great O's speech was

Meanwhile, back on planet earth, guns will increasingly be available to more & more loons and more & more people will be innocently killed...All the while, we'll be wondering 'What can we do?'...It's an ugly cycle that has shown zero signs of abating
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Old 14.01.2011, 19:23
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My MLK T shirt is nicely washed and ironed ready for Monday and a Kodak moment, also a movement in the US which we can all be proud of, ready to celebrate and work towards the dream.

Every time Obama steps onto the podium and gives one of his great speeches, or indeed any elected official appears in public they put themselves in danger for expressing their views. Despite the threat of violence and brandishing of guns, it is rhetoric, ideas, reason and social movements that remain the most powerful.



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Old 14.01.2011, 19:37
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Letters from Birmingham Jail...First thing I ever read that genuinely moved me

Probably the singular moment that changed how I viewed activism and what is 'right'
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Old 14.01.2011, 19:51
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I love Eric Dyson- have met him - been to his lectures. He reminds us that we have to hold our leaders accountable
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So, after all the furore about implied threats from various right-wing attention-seekers, here's someone who has actually been arrested for making an actual death threat... who happens to be a Democrat activist... who happens to have been threatening a member of the Tea Party movement...

It's the world turned upside down, I tell you! This isn't how the story goes, surely?
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

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So, after all the furore about implied threats from various right-wing attention-seekers, here's someone who has actually been arrested for making an actual death threat... who happens to be a Democrat activist... who happens to have been threatening a member of the Tea Party movement...

It's the world turned upside down, I tell you! This isn't how the story goes, surely?
Unbelievable. What does he have to be so mad and unstable about? It's not like he got shot, or anything...
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Sixty-three year-old James Eric Fuller, who was shot during last week's shooting in Arizona and survived...
Oh...

It doesn't excuse anything, but kind of a key piece of information, don't you think?
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Old 16.01.2011, 21:44
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I meant to put this ilp
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So, after all the furore about implied threats from various right-wing attention-seekers, here's someone who has actually been arrested for making an actual death threat... who happens to be a Democrat activist... who happens to have been threatening a member of the Tea Party movement...

It's the world turned upside down, I tell you! This isn't how the story goes, surely?
I meant to post this but it's difficult on a droid. Well done for posting He should not have said it.
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

Just for sake of completeness, courtesy of The Daily Beast - "The rise of the fright wing":
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-a...astoriginalsC3

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Not really:
- Reagan reduced income taxes (especially for the rich which was a good thing to do at the time, some argue that this act was the most important factor in the economic expansion that followed).
- Increased interest rates (to curb inflation).
- Increased defense expenditure (The USSR still was an issue).
- The only non-populist president that did not increase minimum wage.
- Opposed increased regulation of economic activities.

I can give Reagan a "B".
This list is all well and good but the main cause of this crisis were the banking deregulations which indeed began in the 80s under Reagan. Sorry if this was already stated elsewhere in the thread. I couldn't read more than two pages.
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First photos showing how well Giffords is doing. I am relieved by it, and happy for her, though it is still a long road to any semblance of normalcy.

http://beta.news.yahoo.com/first-pho...102817527.html
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