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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

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Edit: Ok, I reread and pushed through the post-dinner beers, and I see that your point is which comments they didn't delete. Yes, if that's intention then that's in incredibly poor taste; but come on, even Palin isn't dumb enough to leave those kinds of comments intentionally!
She obviously just left simple instructions for her comment editors and they weren't smart enough to work out that this was damaging. Of course, they don't have any sense of decency anyway.

Moving swiftly on, let's take a look at some more shit:

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Old 10.01.2011, 21:44
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She obviously just left simple instructions for her comment editors and they weren't smart enough to work out that this was damaging. Of course, they don't have any sense of decency anyway.

Moving swiftly on, let's take a look at some more shit:

And after that people talk about extremists muslims being the worst...
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Moving swiftly on, let's take a look at some more shit:
Fred Phelps! Now there's a representative of the American people for you!

Did Osama bin Laden happen to make any comment on the incident? Rose West? Dennis Nilsen?
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Indeed, scary stuff.
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

@Gastro Gnome - thanks for the link to the WBC video. I was astounded, thinking it could not be for real. Now THAT'S sick.
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@Gastro Gnome - thanks for the link to the WBC video. I was astounded, thinking it could not be for real. Now THAT'S sick.
Yeah, Gastro Gnome: Thank you for spreading Fred Phelps' message a little bit further.

After all, more publicity is just what he needs, isn't it?

Gotta keep that flame burning...
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

Fred Phelps: Seriously, everytime somebody mentions him, I wince. He should be ignored, repudiated and shunned. It's his type of rhetoric that gives "freedom of speech" a bad name and when I ask, "why isn't there a law against such spewing in public such hatred and vile?"
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Yeah, Gastro Gnome: Thank you for spreading Fred Phelps' message a little bit further.

After all, more publicity is just what he needs, isn't it?

Gotta keep that flame burning...
Ha Ha - your fingers were just a big quicker than mine.
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:04
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Fred Phelps: Seriously, everytime somebody mentions him, I wince. He should be ignored, repudiated and shunned.
Well, he is, pretty much. Don't know what his ugly mug is doing on this thread.
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:06
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Fred Phelps! Now there's a representative of the American people for you!

Did Osama bin Laden happen to make any comment on the incident? Rose West? Dennis Nilsen?
Did I claim he was representative of the American people?

What is notable though is that he does command followers in a way that Dennis Nilsen did not. It should also be noted that Osama bin Laden is (rightly) vilified and hunted.
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:09
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Yeah, Gastro Gnome: Thank you for spreading Fred Phelps' message a little bit further.

After all, more publicity is just what he needs, isn't it?
People like this exist in the US and incite others to extreme action. This is entirely relevant in a discussion such as this one.

One of the points that this whole discussion raises is of whether there are limits to freedom of speech, especially when violence is incited.
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What is notable though is that he does command followers
Yup. Thousands of them, nay, millions of them!

In fact, I've heard it rumoured that everyone in America hangs on to his every last word!

Which is obviously the reason why you, a Brit, felt it necessary to provide a link to his worthy words of wisdom on this thread.

Keep fanning, old chap. Keep fanning.
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:11
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Re: Gabrielle Giffords, US politician, shot in the head

I posted it directly after the Sarah Palin Facebook thing.

The comment on Palin's FB page was pretty much as bad as Phelps and here we are saying he should be shunned, ignored and not taken seriously. Now . . . what about Sarah Palin and her like?
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I posted it directly after the Sarah Palin Facebook thing.

The comment on Palin's FB page was pretty much as bad as Phelps and here we are saying he should be shunned, ignored and not taken seriously. Now . . . what about Sarah Palin and her like?
What about her? Quite a lot of Americans seem to like her, unlike Mr Phelps.

Democracy, eh? Such an inconvenience. These thick Septics should know what's good for them.

... which is direct rule from the living room of some desk jockey in Zurich, obviously!
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:18
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What about her? Quite a lot of Americans seem to like her, unlike Mr Phelps.

Democracy, eh? Such an inconvenience. These thick Septics should know what's good for them.

... which is direct rule from the living room of some desk jockey in Zurich, obviously!
Who's arguing against democracy?

I'm pointing out Sarah Palin's nauseating media management techniques and I'm quite able to to do that regardless of where I live or where I come from.

Or should only US citizens comment on US politics?
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Old 10.01.2011, 22:22
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I posted it directly after the Sarah Palin Facebook thing.

The comment on Palin's FB page was pretty much as bad as Phelps and here we are saying he should be shunned, ignored and not taken seriously. Now . . . what about Sarah Palin and her like?
Let's hope that will happen but as long as Rush Limbaugh and other Fox newscasters have prime airtime, it will be very difficult to ignore their voices. By the way, Rush Limbaugh claimed the public outcry against the tea party and Palin is childish and immature. Here are some of his points:



His very long list of points:
  • LOUGHNER IS A LONE NUT. Even "the Obama government" -- the FBI -- calls Loughner a "deranged, insular irrational kid" who acted alone, Limbaugh said. "The kid was evil. He was into the occult. He had an altar with a skull in his yard. Was God in his life? He was stalking the congresswoman."
  • HEAVY METAL. "The guy listened to heavy metal, and some of that anarchist stuff. We're dealing with an insane individual."
  • DIDN'T WATCH FOX. "There is no evidence that he listened to talk radio. There is no evidence he listened to Fox News. There is no evidence that he saw Sarah Palin's Facebook page. No evidence he saw her lame website with the crosshairs."
  • BLAME THE PARENTS. "Where are the parents? Are they derelicts? He was so devoted to marijuana he wanted to make it the new U.S. currency. Did anyone try to institutionalize him?"

    SHERIFF COVERING HIS OWN BUTT. "This kid sounds like he was very well known as a dangerous element around town. If there is a file somewhere about this kid in the sheriff's office," said Rush, and the sheriff had failed to act, then he would be partly responsible for the tragedy in Arizona on Saturday. "If he was so concerned about the Tea Party, where was security for this congresswoman's event on Saturday?"
  • DUPNIK IS A DEMOCRAT. "This Sheriff, Clarence Dupnik, is an anti-conservative."
  • WHERE'S THE SAFETY NET? "Loughner is obviously deranged, so where's the left's safety net? Haven't we spent trillions of dollars to build a system to catch these disturbed people? Where is the evidence that their compassion works?"
  • THE OKLAHOMA CITY TEMPLATE. "Sad tragedies, where people die, are seen first as political opportunities by these people," Rush said. "The Republicans had nothing to do with the bombing at Oklahoma City, but it was seen as a political opportunity for Bill Clinton. This is now the same template."
  • CRIMINALIZING SPEECH. "They're shutting down any opposition and criminalizing it. They've had a plan filed away in a drawer to take away as many of our political freedoms as they can. The Democrats just lost an election, and now the only other thing they can try to do is silence the opposition."
  • HYPOCRITES ON VIOLENCE. It's not the right, Limbaugh said, but the left that glorifies criminal behavior and violent imagery. "'No, no,' they say, 'that's art!' Rap music? 'That's art!'"
  • DEMOCRATS ARE GHOULS. They privately are thankful for Tucson because "they think it advances their sick and perverted purposes." Mark Penn, who was Bill Clinton's polltaker, said -- before Tucson -- that "Obama needs his own Oklahoma City."
  • DEMOCRATS v. THE MAJORITY. By linking Loughner to the right, Limbaugh warned, Democrats are "taking aim at a majority of the people in the country. This is not 1988, or 1993, when the drive-by media had total control. I am not going to be silenced," he said, but now he has too many allies. "They're accusing a majority of Americans of being accomplices to murder."
  • A DIRECT DENIAL. "At no time has anybody ever called for violence," Limbaugh said. "We've never subtly promoted it." And, by the way, the Democrats' language is and was worse.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_806912.html
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I'm pointing out Sarah Palin's nauseating media management techniques
What? Having rude comments about her deleted from her Faceache account?

Goodness me! She's as bad as Vladimir Putin!

She'll be having people shot next!
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As someone already stated the Topeka Church aim to picket the funerals of the Arizona victims.One thing that I can say for Switzerland is that I never saw politicians saying stuff like 'don't retreat reload' (maybe a fund-raising shooting?) but not picketing funerals.

Can you imagine the outrage if they attend the 9 year-old girl's funeral?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/0..._n_806319.html
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What? Having rude comments about her deleted from her Faceache account?

Goodness me! She's as bad as Vladimir Putin!

She'll be having people shot next!
Oh, it was weird seeing all those nasty comments on Sarah Palin's Facebook page being deleted. Unfortunately for the mods, comments were being added quicker than they could delete. It was quite a race.

The problem with SP deleting comments on her public facebook page is that she's inhibiting her reader's "freedom of speech".
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Gastronome, what an incredible indictment - I hope others take the time to read your link. Just incredible- sick.
No DB, it is about THAT comment, as per Gastronome's link, NOT being deleted which is sick. I sincerely hope few here would argue against that.
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