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socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

A complete outsider wants to know.

What are the main differences here - I have heard a few less than positive comments from the Swiss regarding Austria, so please...SPILL!

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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

People* think Swiss make Saabs.

People* think Austrians make Kangaroos.



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People* think Austrians make Kangaroos.
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I've heard the same actually
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

what were the negative comments?
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

Have any of you watched the movie Dumb and Dumber?


I don't know about the negative comments -

One member told me all the bears come from Austria over to Switzerland and the other told me not to mention Austria because it's just not cool.

I have no idea what either is talking about which of course is why I asked!
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

If you don't understand why the Swiss look down on Austria, you don't know much about European history.

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One member told me all the bears come from Austria over to Switzerland and the other told me not to mention Austria because it's just not cool.
ok then, both are true

neighbours who don't really know eachother, a shared language, history.
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

Habsburgs.
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Weren't they that slightly odd family with the big old house from somewhere in... whisper it... Aargau?
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Weren't they that slightly odd family with the big old house from somewhere in... whisper it... Aargau?
You mean the Habsburgs were mobbits, too?

That would explain a lot...
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Weren't they that slightly odd family with the big old house from somewhere in... whisper it... Aargau?
yes, that's what happens when you let foreigners in. They buy castles, think they are the kings ufem häfi (on the potty) and start all sorts of trouble.
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

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http://www.robinsonlibrary.com/histo.../1291/tell.htm
I my self like "Snow white and the seven dwarfs"better
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

Austria sucks at skiing while Switzerland is awesome at skiing?

Oh, you want something other than a sporting rivarly?
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

I will admit it: I do not remember European history - AND, being a third away around the globe, I am not sure I was ever taught correctly about it anyway.

Tell me - can anyone here tell me about a term called "Waldfrevel"?
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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

I seriously would like a summary about European history that has something to do with why Swiss think negatively of Austria - For any reason at all

...and while you're at it, please feel free to speak your opinions of your other neighbors such as France and Germany as well. ...and that other tiny little country that as an American I have a tough time spelling.
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I seriously would like a summary about European history that has something to do with why Swiss think negatively of Austria - For any reason at all
In a nutshell, Switzerland began as a pact of mutual defence between three small statelets (cantons) which were worried about interference from the Habsburgs - the dynasty which ended up being identified for most of the last millennium with the Austrian Empire.

Quite a lot of Swiss national mythology is about doughty Swiss yeomen doing over the Austrian army in one way or another, from William Tell to the battles of Morgarten, Sempach and Naefels. There's a pretty cool story about Swiss guerillas driving heavily armoured Austrian soldiers into a lake, where they all drowned, but I can't remember the details.

Think Irish and English, and you get the picture.
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Austria was a brutal empire that ruled most of Europe for many centuries.

In 1291, Urri/Schwiz/Nidwald threw off the brutal shackles of the Austrians.

Most of Europe had to suffer them for much longer, the last in 1917.

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Re: socio-political and economics Switzerland vs. Austria

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Think Irish and English, and you get the picture.
Irish = Swiss

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You know, I forgot all about William Tell and never thought about the story being about Switzerland and Austria.

So is this the basis for the bad bears and bad blood?
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There is also the Kinderfressen incident of 1897, during which several hundred officers of the Austrian cavalry, returning from a campaign in Moravia, stopped in the village of Küsnacht, near Zurich, where they demanded refreshment from the impoverished citizens.

The people of Küsnacht had only recently recovered from the Great Dearth of 1896, which had left them hungry and despondent with hardly a cabbage to call their own, and had nothing to offer the arrogant imperialist interlopers, apart from a sack of small potatoes and the rind off a round of cheese. These meagre offerings they placed before the officers of the Austrian cavalry, who snorted contemptuously at the honest peasants standing before them, before galloping into the village, spearing children as they passed by, lifting them up and eating them raw, straight off their swords.

The sight of the officers of the Austrian cavalry devouring innocent Swiss children like so many shish kebabs, blood running down their chins, their tunics stained and dripping, filled the good people of Küsnacht with so much righteous wrath that they stepped forward as one and fell upon the rapacious Habsburgs in a frenzy rarely seen before or since. Before the sun had set, the streets of Küsnacht were aflood with the blood of the slaughtered officers of the Austrian cavalry. Their corpses were never found - it can only be presumed that they were mercilessly devoured as they had devoured the innocents of the village barely half an hour before.

The citizens of Küsnacht celebrated the rout of the Austrians the following Sunday by boiling the potatoes and grilling the rind of cheese, which they scraped upon the potatoes and ate as one might eat cheese on toast, but with potatoes. They named this feast in honour of the recently eaten Queen of the May, a young lady by the name of Raquel Aett.

The people of Küsnacht, now a prosperous suburb of the city of Zurich, still observe this feast upon the 3rd Sunday of each May, eating vast quantities of grilled cheese and potatoes, with gherkins and pickled onions and a sprinkling of ground nutmeg. The name of the dish has been corrupted over the years to "raclette", the poor girl after whom the delicacy is named having been forgotten years ago, but it remains, in spirit, the same dish by which the thrashing of the Austrians was celebrated way back in the late 19th century by those good and honest burghers.

Building contractors and highway engineers often dig up human bones during their excavations for new projects in the Küsnacht area, but nothing is ever said about them, and they are quickly thrown back into the Earth, without ceremony, the memory of the Kinderfressen incident being a painful one, even today.

You should try raclette when you come over. It's delicious.

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