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Old 25.01.2011, 18:05
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yes, 3, done my job, I don't ask you, I know you haven't.
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Old 25.01.2011, 18:10
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Mayer Amschel Rothschild
Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws.

I wonder why Mayer would make that last statement?
Because he preferred to control money rather than having an all-servile Bernanke printing it. I would rather have Rothschild to be in control of the printing too.

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Old 25.01.2011, 18:12
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T if you don't get this concept look at Germany who are now bailing out 1/2 of Europe without a real banking industry (in comparison to London) with a large manafacturing base.

That would be a different "Germany" from the "Germany" whose banks lent all that money to other European countries in the first place, I guess.
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Old 25.01.2011, 18:39
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So he should look to a country somewhat smaller than Scotland, with a population somewhat larger than Scotland's, to see how to run the UK - a country some 6 times the size of Switzerland, and 8 times more populous?

Alternatively, we could put the size of Switzerland's economy into some perspective, and have Mr Cameron go talk to the Governor of New York State instead.

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Psssst, that's New Jersey. Heh, not a place with a Swiss-style reputation, either! (Australia is NY state)
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Old 25.01.2011, 18:54
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There are definitely a few bold statements in that soliloquy, I don't think I've ever heard of 'this septered isle' being compared with near perfect verisimilitude with the famous '800 years of brotherly love and coo-coo clocks' dialog from 'the third man'!
To describe the fact that Britain was a republic for 12 years after a series of the bloodiest battles in human history, topped in gore only by the 'harrying of the north', and the 'wars of the roses', as a 'hiccup' is probably the worlds biggest understatement!

The clear fact that Britain managed to own 2/3rds of the world at one point, and is now flat broke lends credence to the proposition that Britain is crap at managing stuff!
Admittedly, the EU is better at handling things. Their secret is the monetary union that has endless structural problems, the mischievous accounting methods they use, and yea, the expansionary mentality of building a neo-napoleonic empire...
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Old 25.01.2011, 19:03
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Weren't you just complaining about right wing sentiment and then you say that the monarchy is German, the last Royal to be born in Germany was King George I..and Germany didn't technically exist.
If I said, a third generation Irish immigrant was a Paddy, you would be calling me a right wing fascist...but saying a x generation family is German is alright?

Also everything else you wrote is wrong that chip is looking mighty precarious.
The language we're writing in today is Germanic, and so were the Anglo-Saxons, of whom countless Brits descend today.
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Because he preferred to control money rather than having an all-servile Bernanke printing it. I would rather have Rothschild to be in control of the printing too.
Really so you'd rather have a self serving flunky control the fate of millions within a nation, guess we're on different sides of the fence.

Bankers through recent events have shown their willing to help themselves and some.

Control of money = power to corrupt and manipulate and serve you own interests.
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That would be a different "Germany" from the "Germany" whose banks lent all that money to other European countries in the first place, I guess.
No same Germany this time their bankers got greedy and exposed themselves to risk. No doubt the German government will reign them in.

Still stands how did they create that wealth in the first place?
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Old 25.01.2011, 19:32
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The problem really is no one is accountable for their actions if that be politicans, bankers or corporate CEO's, hence they become self serving and create the mess we belong too today.

The UK epitomises this philosophy.
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Old 25.01.2011, 21:44
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Really so you'd rather have a self serving flunky control the fate of millions within a nation, guess we're on different sides of the fence.

Bankers through recent events have shown their willing to help themselves and some.

Control of money = power to corrupt and manipulate and serve you own interests.
I prefer to have an economy driven by merchants -a la Hanseatic League- that put at risk their own money and well being, than a highly paid, all-powerful bureaucrat. I prefer the self interest of businessmen than the self interest of politicians, the former have a history of being more rational.
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There are definitely a few bold statements in that soliloquy, I don't think I've ever heard of 'this septered isle' being compared with near perfect verisimilitude with the famous '800 years of brotherly love and coo-coo clocks' dialog from 'the third man'!
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]To describe the fact that Britain was a republic for 12 years after a series of the bloodiest battles in human history, topped in gore only by the 'harrying of the north', and the 'wars of the roses', as a 'hiccup' is probably the worlds biggest understatement!
Nobody said anything about brotherly love and I'm not sure where the cuckoo clocks come in.

All of the events you mention were internal events and in no way alter the fact that Britain has existed as a political unity for hundreds of years, (England and Scotland for hundreds of years before that). Furthermore it has enjoyed a long history of independence free from any interference from outside its borders which is unmatched anywhere else in the EU. Moreover, power may have swung back and forth between different factions, and some of those transitions might have been bloody, but the British have nevertheless remained masters of their own affairs. For good or ill, that has worked its way into it's national identity and it's approach to Europe.
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If I said, a third generation Irish immigrant was a Paddy,
Did someone call?
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