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Old 02.02.2011, 00:04
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yes, absolutely, and unfortunately combined with starting senility
I hope we will not see more death coming from his stubborness. Inshallah!
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Old 02.02.2011, 00:20
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I think that Mubarak along with the pro-Western puppets are all under fire. They'll be gone before long; they've done so much harm agrr.

Hypocrisy is still looming over the White House. The same U.S., that walked the extra step -leaving us insolvent with no money- and sailed the high seas to democratize Iraq and save it from the evil of dictatorship, stands reluctant today to denounce the 30 yr rule of another dictator who's ruled with an iron fist.

Double standards anybody??
Hard to find a Government that does not embrace Hypocrisy.

As I posted earlier
Iranian leaders, opposition both embrace Egyptian protesters
http://edition.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/me...ran/index.html

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"While some governments are trying to walk a fine line between supporting Egypt's president and supporting protesters in that tumultuous nation, Iranian officials are taking the side of the protesters.
But an Iranian opposition leader is making a competing claim of solidarity with the demonstrators, pointing out that when Iran's leaders faced a similar movement in their own backyard two years ago, they crushed it."
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Old 02.02.2011, 00:36
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Erdogan said today mubarak should step down already. US is increasing its pressure on him to broker some deal for a transition and get the hell out.
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Old 02.02.2011, 01:02
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When Mubarak took over power in Egypt everyone breathed a sigh of relief. The country was very volatile and his predecessor had just been shot. I just hope the army and police keep their heads cool, and Egypt manages to sort out a solution.
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Old 02.02.2011, 01:11
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak announced Tuesday that he will not seek re-election in the fall, a day after President Obama told the embattled ruler to step aside in the face of a massive public uprising.

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Old 02.02.2011, 01:30
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

The dude is 82, has been president for 30 yrs...I mean you can't beat that! why doesn't he just step aside??!
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Old 02.02.2011, 01:47
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Well credit to Pashosh- perhaps I should have read the book!
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Old 02.02.2011, 01:53
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Obama speaking calling for orderly transition of power -now. Praises the Egyptian people a human chain around the national museum linking the age of antiquity to today.
The problem is that now is not enough for the Egyptian people they want Obama to condemn Muburak, which he really is not at liberty to do. El Baradei will probably say that it was not a strong enough statement, but at least he has made a statement, anything more will be seen as direct interference.
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Old 02.02.2011, 02:08
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freedom seldom comes free of cost.
That's funny I thought that you were referring to Muburak.
it seems that Obama communicated to Muburak directly that he must go now. Obama will get a lot of flack form the Republicans for this.

One thing that the Egyptians could learn from the Iranians are some of their demonstration slogans- they are quite witty.
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Old 02.02.2011, 02:28
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Sorry, but as chief of the Arab League, he had to stay neutral. He was not an "Egyptian politician" and a chief of the Arab League is not to meddle in political affairs of the member states. Matters however in the meantime have changed
I were about to reply the same thing, Amr Moussa in the first place is a very educated, decent, intelligent and political man, he's not the kind to jump the band wagon by any meaning like El Baradei and others.

We've been tweeting and messaging calling media since last Friday to get him in the picture as me and everyone know he won't step in on his own for his character and sensitive position in the Arab league, we're gonna keep pushing him forward as he's the only hope imho, i'm hopefully flying friday morning and will make sure to spread the message among the people on the ground, as they are protesters with no leader for now and Egypt cannot sleep one night without a president / govt.

Regarding Mubarak speech, i would've accepted it if he spoke as a real Egyptian citizen not an arrogant president, if he declared democratic elections within 60 days.

The problem is, lot's of the people in Tahrir now are poor people, who never had anyone looking after them or treating them like humans, they live in garbage sinks, 10 persons in a single room, now they can feel they're humans again, sharing their country with rich, middle class and everyone else, rich kids take care of them, eat with them, talk with them for the first time, it's a great sense of solidarity, love, passion growing there between all social classes, only one thing in common, their love to Egypt

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Old 02.02.2011, 02:36
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I were about to reply the same thing, Amr Moussa in the first place is a very educated, decent, intelligent and political man, he's not the kind to jump the band wagon by any meaning like El Baradei and others.

We've been tweeting and messaging calling media since last Friday to get him in the picture as me and everyone know he won't step in on his own for his character and sensitive position in the Arab league, we're gonna keep pushing him forward as he's the only hope imho, i'm hopefully flying friday morning and will make sure to spread the message among the people on the ground, as they are protesters with no leader for now and Egypt cannot sleep one night without a president / govt.

Regarding Mubarak speech, i would've accepted it if he spoke as a real Egyptian citizen not an arrogant president, if he declared democratic elections within 60 days.

The problem is, lot's of the people in Tahrir now are poor people, who never had anyone looking after them or treating them like humans, they live in garbage sinks, 10 persons in a single room, now they can feel they're humans again, sharing their country with rich, middle class and everyone else, rich kids take care of them, eat with them, talk with them for the first time, it's a great sense of solidarity, love, passion growing there between all social classes, only one thing in common, their love to Egypt

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To tell the truth there are parts of the uS where you will find the same thing.

Iran is now saying that Egypt is having an Iranian type Revolution, that Obama is supporting Muburak and sending arms, to try to stop the revolution.
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Old 02.02.2011, 11:29
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Posted on Facebook by an Israeli:

"Dear Egyptian Rioters, Please don't damage the pyramids. We will not rebuild.

Thank you."

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Old 02.02.2011, 11:43
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Great article today on Haaretz. Food for thought.

"The late Arab-American scholar Edward Said appears to have been right. We're all suffering from Orientalism, not to say racism, if the sight of an entire people throwing off the yoke of tyranny and courageously demanding free elections fills us with fear rather than uplifting us, just because they're Arabs"
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"We're all suffering from Orientalism, not to say racism, if the sight of an entire people throwing off the yoke of tyranny and courageously demanding free elections fills us with fear rather than uplifting us, just because they're Arabs"
No smoke without fire. Most of these revolutions go only one way in the ME irrespective of who starts them.

You seem to be Egyptian so I understand your excitement but revolutions are dime a dozen so pardon me if I don't get all excited over people doing something that they should have done many decades ago

I love how US is playing this. Talk about having a thick skin and zero moral fibre. I wish all the best to Egypt as cards are really stacked up against them.

P.S- When will the Saudi royalty get kicked out? Twitter warriors got any plans for that?
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Old 02.02.2011, 14:27
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Great article today on Haaretz. Food for thought.

"The late Arab-American scholar Edward Said appears to have been right. We're all suffering from Orientalism, not to say racism, if the sight of an entire people throwing off the yoke of tyranny and courageously demanding free elections fills us with fear rather than uplifting us, just because they're Arabs"
Mubarak was the first Egyptian leader not to start a "shooting" war - he will by replaced by a peaceful democratic regime, a raving Islamist dictatorship or something in between.

Based on experience of revolutions and the Arab world - The fears are justified, but so is some optimism. Egyptians started this revolution asking for work & bread. the only way to guarantee those is with Peace.

Only time will tell if Egypt will be a force for good or bad in the world.

If it will be for good - great. if for bad - a least we could finally consign Edward Said's work to the rubbish bin of History.
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Nice article from a prominent philosopher:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...tunisia-revolt#
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Getting ugly- Running battle outside the Egyptian museum- clashing violently.
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Old 02.02.2011, 15:46
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The interior ministry employs 1.7million called trouble bar forces?
these peoplehave a vested interest in defending the regime. The crowds are tearing up paving stones and using whatever weapons they can find, it is getting very bloody.

I started to build up last night as Anderson was transmitting live. They were trying to send a report from a blacony, whan a large crowd erected a loudspeaker and a lazer to try to stop them from reporting. They shouted slogans about Al Jazeera which made CNN think that the crowd thought that they were Al Jazeera. At first the reporters just tossed it off as being hired Muburak thugs who should just be ignored, but then they started to throw rocks and they were worried about them storming the building

Egytian police on horseback standing with the Muburak supporters, there are sound of gunshots, not known if this is into the air or not. the army is just watching.

CNN Hala Gorani and Anderson have been jostled around and fled for their lives, they were very scared. they blame the Muburak supporters who are targeting anyone who looks like an observer or reporter and for startting the aggression- looking ofr a fight and punching hte reporters and pulling the cameras out of their hands. Hala Gorani was slammed against a wall. A large crowd of pro Muburak supporters ( 200-300) are heading towards the square

They are showing the men on horseback whipping the anti-Muburak supporters and even one on a camel!

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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Seems like carrot and stick.
Either accept my promises or be ready for a fight.

Make it or break it.
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The revolution is now screwed up by protesters attacking each other! They are destroying everything around!
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