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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Maybe mubarak's retirement plans do not include his own execution: Freedom is not free.

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Old 02.02.2011, 17:00
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The anti-Muburuk has fallen back. The pro-Muburak are pushing forward through the no-mans land. There is now a new no-man's land formed, that prbably won't last long. One of the miiltary vehicles has been overturned. the Military vehicles are moving backwards from the surging 10,000 strong tpwards liberation square. there are tanks moving- not quite sure what is happening with the tanks.
Th army line has been overrun the are army vehicles in the middle trying to keep them apart. the Muburak supporters have poured into the square from all angles blocking the exits.

I am wondering if the army with fire on the pro-Muburak. There is a makeshift hospital near the square. People are being seriously wounded, many head injuries. they have in fact seiged the square and are
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Old 02.02.2011, 17:03
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

People on top of buildings are throwing everything they find down on the protesters.

Why, God, why I am not surprised? Why?
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Horrible scenes now in tahrir square. Clashes, people throwing rocks from buildings. Hundreds of people injured. Unfortunately Mubarak just transformed that into a warzone. Just another proof that he can't be trusted and should step down immediately.

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The anti-Muburuk has fallen back. The pro-Muburak are pushing forward through the no-mans land. There is now a new no-man's land formed, that prbably won't last long. One of the miiltary vehicles has been overturned. the Military vehicles are moving backwards from the surging 10,000 strong tpwards liberation square. there are tanks moving- not quite sure what is happening with the tanks.
Th army line has been overrun the are army vehicles in the middle trying to keep them apart. the Muburak supporters have poured into the square from all angles blocking the exits.

I am wondering if the army with fire on the pro-Muburak. There is a makeshift hospital near the square. People are being seriously wounded, many head injuries. they have in fact seiged the square and are
Sounds like it is organised from the top; they learnt from Iran how to handle peaceful protestors by shipping in thugs with weapons.

Next I foresee the army firing on the anti -Muburak people.
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Old 02.02.2011, 17:16
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Pro-mubarak supporters came with knives, razor-blades, machetes. Some of them riding horses and camels. Apparently when they were caught police IDs were found on them. Pro-mubarak "supporters" are targeting journalists, many beaten and cameras destroyed.
Mubarak just lost his last atom of credibility and dignity. He's now officialy a criminal.
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Horrible scenes now in tahrir square. Clashes, people throwing rocks from buildings. Hundreds of people injured. Unfortunately Mubarak just transformed that into a warzone. Just another proof that he can't be trusted and should step down immediately.

Yes but now the results are completely the opposite of what people were fighting for since one week.

THIS is discrediting the whole protest. Now Mubarak will come out and say: You see I told you, you need me! It is freedom or chaos! And you can't handle freedom, let me be your leader because only me can keep the peace in this country!
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Why do I believe that Obama will stop this?
Oh well it's all too much I'm off to shovel myself out. Over a foot of snow on the drive from last night
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For thos e not watching CNN. They have cleared the square to a large degree, bu the battles continue in the side streets. It seems to be quieter, but there are sporadic flare-ups. Automatic gunfire was just heard and there was some kind of blast earlier that sent people fleeing.
Both sides are now exchanging Molotov Cocktails. Else where in other eighbourhoods peaceful protests continue. there is a seige mentailty and the sound of constant digging, brieaking up the roads to use as stones/ weapons.

I wish that they would go to the hospitals to show the casualties. The anti-Muburak are thousands of men, hundreds of women and some children.
the White House has made a stronger statement that this must end now. Obama is expected to speak again. The sec Gen Ban KiMoon and British PPM strongly condemn the action and are looking to see if the regime are as reporter behind these attacks. That there must be no further delay to address the concerns of the people, as this unrest could transfer to the whole region.
Foreign ministry spokesman Hossam Zaki say that this is an unnacceptable interference in Egyptian affairs, that Muburak has not lost control. that westerners are ignorant of Egytian society that Egypt has been and will continue to be a beacon of moderation and stability. The violence cannot be tolerated and the govt is trying to bring this under control. We know what is interests the best interests of our society. Cairo is not Tahrir Square.

one Killed , four hundred injured.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

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Pro-mubarak supporters came with knives, razor-blades, machetes. Some of them riding horses and camels. Apparently when they were caught police IDs were found on them. Pro-mubarak "supporters" are targeting journalists, many beaten and cameras destroyed.
Mubarak just lost his last atom of credibility and dignity. He's now officialy a criminal.
There are millions of Mubarak supporters - people who invested a lot to curry favour with the regime. they have a lot to lose - it will more than Twitting to defeat them.

Mubarak acts like any other Arab ruler - he is a dictator who will do whatever it takes to stay in power.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Anyone else still watching the live footage, the tracers lighting up the sky and gunfire?
Leaflets were distributed by the pro Muburak (or as they wish to be called pro- stabilization) supporters. On one side is a list of anti-Muburak slogans and on the other a list of counter-claims by the pro stabilization movement.
Police IDs have reportedly been found on captured pro- stabilization supporters.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Sad events but definitely no one is losing ground, protests are going on and it's been called for on larger scale, the so called pro-Mubarak supporters are nothing but pushed in employees of govt' & private sector who has definitely reached a deal with the govt mixed with police thugs, evidence are:
  • Designed t-shirts with high resolution recent photos that you don't get on internet.
  • Well designed & produced leaflets in large quantities.
  • The way they stroke all in one into tahrir.
  • The military did actually leave them in with no restriction knowing what will happen, doesn't really need so much intelligence.
  • Members of national petroleum company admitted being pushed by their company into this demonstrations.
  • Some of the arrested had police I.Ds and were passed to military

Guess Mubarak have no chance to stay in power even if no more demonstrations happen, basically because:
  • Conspiracy against peaceful civilians.
  • If not conspiracy, and assuming these were true supporters, definitely the showed the him and his supporters are just villains the are so violent and won't hesitate to kill innocent for whatever they want which is not acceptable.
  • US, UK, UN & EU have reached the limit with him, so even if he stays, don't see how he can fix any relations in the future as it's all gone now.
  • If he doesn't resign, possibility he's getting assassinated is 99.9% as his election results

It's all gone for Mubarak now, even if he continue, his supporters today will be his enemies tomorrow as he have no chance in ruling and he screwed up all foreign relations with his allies.

Roll calling for a Thursday protests followed by Farewell Friday protests, all still peaceful and have one demand, Mubarak Out Now
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Sad events but definitely no one is losing ground, protests are going on and it's been called for on larger scale, the so called pro-Mubarak supporters are nothing but pushed in employees of govt' & private sector who has definitely reached a deal with the govt mixed with police thugs, evidence are:
  • Designed t-shirts with high resolution recent photos that you don't get on internet.
  • Well designed & produced leaflets in large quantities.
  • The way they stroke all in one into tahrir.
  • The military did actually leave them in with no restriction knowing what will happen, doesn't really need so much intelligence.
  • Members of national petroleum company admitted being pushed by their company into this demonstrations.
  • Some of the arrested had police I.Ds and were passed to military

Guess Mubarak have no chance to stay in power even if no more demonstrations happen, basically because:
  • Conspiracy against peaceful civilians.
  • If not conspiracy, and assuming these were true supporters, definitely the showed the him and his supporters are just villains the are so violent and won't hesitate to kill innocent for whatever they want which is not acceptable.
  • US, UK, UN & EU have reached the limit with him, so even if he stays, don't see how he can fix any relations in the future as it's all gone now.
  • If he doesn't resign, possibility he's getting assassinated is 99.9% as his election results

It's all gone for Mubarak now, even if he continue, his supporters today will be his enemies tomorrow as he have no chance in ruling and he screwed up all foreign relations with his allies.

Roll calling for a Thursday protests followed by Farewell Friday protests, all still peaceful and have one demand, Mubarak Out Now
Mubarak is old news now -he's gotta a few days left. The main concern is coming from the military wanting to place one of their guys in power to maintain the status quo. This can render the situation rather complicated...
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Mubarak is old news now -he's gotta a few days left. The main concern is coming from the military wanting to place one of their guys in power to maintain the status quo. This can render the situation rather complicated...
Anyone but this traitor, the guy have no morals at all, he's ready to sacrifice the entire country not to leave power, he knows if he steps down he will be executed in the same liberation square people are being killed at today, i so hate this guy like no one else in my entire life, i would do anything to just end this guy now whatever it takes.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Picture of copts forming human chain to protect muslims during prayer. A ray of hope despite the chaotic situation and the violence. You may say that I'm a dreamer. But I'm not the only one.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Sylvain Castonguay a cameraman for Radio-Canada has been attacked and beaten up by 10ish Pro-Mubarak protesters. He was almost killed when the soldiers came to rescue him.

Reporters are putting their life in danger to bring the truth of the situation to the rest of the world.

This is a civil war...
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Sylvain Castonguay a cameraman for Radio-Canada has been attacked and beaten up by 10ish Pro-Mubarak protesters. He was almost killed when the soldiers came to rescue him.

Reporters are putting their life in danger to bring the truth of the situation to the rest of the world.

This is a civil war...
Yes, they received instructions to harass all journalists especially Alajazeera, Alarabiya (allthough they represent saudi point of view). A belgian journalist escaped from mob preparing to lynch him.

On the regional aspect, I am impressed by Erdogan's statements asking directly and boldly Mubarak to step-down. I don't know of any other leader who was so direct. Turkey is doing everything to be a local super-power and it's main competitor till now was egypt.
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On the regional aspect, I am impressed by Erdogan's statements asking directly and boldly Mubarak to step-down. I don't know of any other leader who was so direct. Turkey is doing everything to be a local super-power and it's main competitor till now was egypt.
I don't like Erdogan but I have to admit he did really good things for the country. And I have a lot of respect for him to stand and speak up what everybody think but don't have the guts to say.
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Do they stop to prey in between all that rioting?
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Sounds like it is organised from the top; they learnt from Iran how to handle peaceful protestors by shipping in thugs with weapons.

Next I foresee the army firing on the anti -Muburak people.
Hopefully I was wrong about "I foresee the army firing on the anti -Muburak people"!
according to todays news the army is moving pro-Muburak people away from the scene.

Difficult to assess what orders the army have & from whom & if they are obeying their orders......
Anyway situation now looks more positive for the protestors.
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