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Old 14.02.2011, 15:18
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This simply demonstrates that the Iran government is lying when they said there are only a few people supporting the Green movement.
If there were really so few then the Iran government would not need to deploy such large forces to control them. The Greens should apply for a march to support Egypt but with invitations to the Egyptians to join in the march. Would be interesting to hear the Iran government reaction since they claim to support the Egyptian democracy movement.

Getting back to Cairo; I still do not see the military making the sort of moves that would resolve my doubts (Dropping state of emergency & curfew, releasing political prsioners & demonstrators). For example, anybody else noticed how quiet Mowvich has been since he returned to Egypt?
I thought I heard that some things have been announced, but wait till Friday. the movement has formed some kind of leadership group. If teh military is not ding what the are supposed to do then protesters will use Friday to vent their frustration.
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Old 14.02.2011, 15:27
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Demonstrations again in Iran, while Turkish president is in Teheran - I hope the demonstrators will be successful, but I'm afraid they be violently put down, like last time.
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Old 14.02.2011, 15:42
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Suspends constitution- dissolves parliament.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1120...-suspended.htm
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Old 14.02.2011, 15:43
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Demonstrations again in Iran, while Turkish president is in Teheran - I hope the demonstrators will be successful, but I'm afraid they be violently put down, like last time.
The only one who can save the country is the old Fox Rafsanjani.
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Old 14.02.2011, 15:50
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Suspends constitution- dissolves parliament.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1120...-suspended.htm
True but is that aiding a move to democracy or a finishing a military coup?

What I would like to see is, as mentioned, dropping state of emergency & curfew, releasing political prisoners & demonstrators.
And an additional one; to stop intimidating & controlling journalists. Al Jeezera just said they are being prevented from broacasting from Tahir square (no clue if that is true?).
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Old 14.02.2011, 18:57
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Please define is this blog about Sadat or Mubarak? If its about Sadat that another issue. I have only been talking about 30 years with Mubarak. Sadat is dead Mubarak is not.
There is the same regime since 1952 when the Free Officers took power. Nasser in 52 took power as being the "Chairman of the Revolutionary Council" leaving the decorative rank of President to General Naguib until Naguib in 54 tried to topple the RC and take full power. We here inevitably speak about the Nasser-Sadat-Mubarak regime.
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I wonder what will happen with the shooting of migrants?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/navi-p..._b_482695.html
Israel has by ultimatum told Egypt to stop illegal migrants trying to get to Israel. As far as I heard, the Israelis threatened to send troop units into Egyptian territory to stop such migrants. These migrants in the view of Israeli and Egyptian security are terrorists anyway. Terrorists who committed terror crimes in Sharm-el-Sheikh and other places in Egypt came on the same routes via the Sinaï, and so Egypt and Israel are not jumping to conclusions without reasons. So that also Egyptian and Israeli governments of the future will act similarily.
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Suspends constitution- dissolves parliament.

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/1120...-suspended.htm
Two good steps forward. A) to suspend a constitution custom-made by Hosni Mubarak for Hosni Mubarak. B) to dissolve the parliament which was the result of continuous election frauds.

The constitution now suspended is the one which reserved the right to dissolve parliament to the military leadership ! just to give one example

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The only one who can save the country is the old Fox Rafsanjani.
Beside the point that the topic here is NOT Iran but Egypt and the Arab World, it is to be noted that Hodjatalislam Rafsanjani is one of the most corrupt politicians between Dakar and Bombay
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What I would like to see is, as mentioned, dropping state of emergency & curfew, releasing political prisoners & demonstrators.
And an additional one; to stop intimidating & controlling journalists. Al Jeezera just said they are being prevented from broacasting from Tahrir square (no clue if that is true?).
I agree in regard to the dropping ofthe state of emergency, but to clear the Midan al-Tahrir to road traffic is urgent, as the capacity of the Midan Abdel Moneim Riad just north is not sufficient. And a precondition for this is to stop media-broadcasts from the Midan Tahrir. The ones in charge now want to restore normal business and normal conditions as soon as possible, and then re-launch the tourism business.
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Old 14.02.2011, 20:35
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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I agree in regard to the dropping ofthe state of emergency, but to clear the Midan al-Tahrir to road traffic is urgent, as the capacity of the Midan Abdel Moneim Riad just north is not sufficient. And a precondition for this is to stop media-broadcasts from the Midan Tahrir. The ones in charge now want to restore normal business and normal conditions as soon as possible, and then re-launch the tourism business.
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http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-201102143541/
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Old 15.02.2011, 02:11
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

I love the uprisings in the Middle East. It is proof positive that their problem is not Israel, nor the US, but their own governments and themselves.


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Old 15.02.2011, 04:15
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I love the uprisings in the Middle East. It is proof positive that their problem is not Israel, nor the US, but their own governments and themselves.


You are forgetting Mossadegh, and all the would-be Mossadeghs.
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Old 15.02.2011, 06:58
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Getting back to Cairo; I still do not see the military making the sort of moves that would resolve my doubts (Dropping state of emergency & curfew, releasing political prsioners & demonstrators). For example, anybody else noticed how quiet Mowvich has been since he returned to Egypt?
I'm actually quite as i have been busy really with so many things to do but i assure you the military are doing their ultimate best to accomplish the demands of the protesters.

The only point is, they have to stabilize the daily life to be able to lift the EL and Curfew, but this cannot be done immediatley as there are still some few more protests from some syndicates and employees of several companies that require some personal demands which i find not appropriate at the moment as we're trying to get the country on track ASAP.

The high committee of armed forces are issuing daily statments with latest updates, yesterday they issued a direct request to all protesters to get back home for the mean while to be able to get life back to normal and cancel the EL & curfew, and they provided contact details for demands / requests, for everyone to be able to submit their demands.

Regarding all the other demands, so far everything has been done apart from EL and new transitional govt, as the current PM / Ministers are the ones that mubarak hired before he resigns, and i find them ok so far, so no problem as long as a proper background check is done regarding corruption which is the case.

So far we have approx. 50 names on the corruption blacklist being investigated by the GP, of people who have missused public funds and used their power to do illegal deals, everyday hearing billions and billions dollars involved, so far i believe we might be talking about +250 Billion $ of corruption if not more.

On the social level, people are very happy all around, there's much more social responsibilities towards the country and other citizens regardless of the social classes which is sort of a new phenomena in Egypt, though some are still afraid of the future but i find it so normal in such a new situation for them.

On the economical level, life is getting back to normal, some prices have even been reduced, there's more than enough of everything to cover the citizens daily needs and even have more luxury in living, buying power seemed to be slowing down a bit last couple of days but it's really getting back to normal.

As mentioned before, HCAF have cancelled the current constitution and dissolved the parliment, a constitutional committee have been requested to start working on a new constitution to be ready within 45 to 60 days.

Security forces (Police) are getting back to the streets gradually and trying to work things out with the citizens in cooperation with the AF.

Journalists and media are having freedom of speech even applying on the national t.v, specially following the arrest of the minister of media and the chief of the national t.v and radio for corruption and falsifying facts about recent protests which lead to lots of blood shed and violence.

So far, everything looks on the positive side and differences can be felt, mostly when it comes to freedom, it's all over the place and people seem to be so at ease and enjoying the post mubarak regime and this is the reason i might be dissappearing bit much these days
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Old 15.02.2011, 07:37
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

WE were worried Mowvich! Well done- keep going! Please send best wishes to all. A word for the Iranians from Egypt would be good!
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Old 15.02.2011, 12:23
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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I'm actually quite as i have been busy really with so many things to do but i assure you the military are doing their ultimate best to accomplish the demands of the protesters.
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Good to hear from you; I was worried you might be in a cellar somewhere getting acquainted with some electrodes.

Sounds like good & positive news
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Thanks guys for worrying about me, for the first time i actually feel i'm in my own country with my own people, it's no longer owned by mafia or corrupt government, everyone can sense freedom in the air, people are cleaning their streets and repairing the public facilitles, it's just a great image of solidarity that didn't exist before in Egypt.

Everyone is moving forward towards a new begining and government are working for the best for the nation not for their own anymore.

Regarding the cells, torture,...etc, this era is finished and done with, there's more civilized attitude in dealing between the citizens and authorities....it's just a brand new phase in Egyptian history
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Interesting to see how Al Jazeera practically ignores the demonstrations in Iran in it's reports.

No media is objective, but Al Jazeera's position towards Iran is very telling.
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Old 15.02.2011, 16:35
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

?? They're on the front page.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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I'll be generous and say that's a strange comment. Al Jazeera's coverage of the recent uprisings has been nothing but exemplary.
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