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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

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Because it's the only country that accepted him & his family. France with its almost 1million tunisian immigrants did not want to have riots on its territory. Apparently benAli has many real estate assets in France, now seized by justice.
Sadly a big part of his family are hiding in Canada and well protected because they have the legal right to be there. The good news is that Harper said yesterday that they will not be accepted in Canada. Now what does it mean? Is the Canadian government going to answer the Tunisian request to send them back to be judge? Will see.

This morning the news are saying that the revolution is now in Yemen. The poorest arabic country controled since 30 years by the same governement and Al Qaida, how that can go?
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

No doubt measures imposed under anti-terrorism legislation

Egypt cuts off internet access

Most of the major internet service providers in Egypt are offline following week-long protests

Charles Arthur
guardian.co.uk,

Friday 28 January 2011 07.36 GMT




The Egyptian government appears to have cut off most internet access as protests continue in the country. Photograph: Sarah Carr/Barcroft Media Egypt appears to have cut off almost all access to the internet from inside and outside the country from late on Thursday night, in a move that has concerned observers of the protests that have been building in strength through the week.
"According to our analysis, 88% of the 'Egyptian internet' has fallen off the internet," said Andree Toonk at BGPmon, a monitoring site that checks connectivity of countries and networks.
"What's different in this case as compared to other 'similar' cases is that all of the major ISP's seem to be almost completely offline. Whereas in other cases, social media sites such as Facebook and Twitter were typically blocked, in this case the government seems to be taking a shotgun approach by ordering ISPs to stop routing all networks."
The cutoff appears to have happened around 10.30pm GMT on Thursday night.
Only one internet service provider appears to still have a working connection to the outside world: the Noor Group, for which all 83 routes are working, and inbound traffic from its connection provider, Telecom Italia, also working.
Protests in Egypt at the government's rule have been building all week, and Friday was expected to see the largest demonstrations so far.
An analysis by Renesys, which provides real-time monitoring of internet access, says that "every Egyptian provider, every business, bank, internet cafe, website, school, embassy and government office that relied on the big four Egyptian ISPs for their internet connectivity is now cut off from the rest of the world. Link Egypt, Vodafone/Raya, Telecom Egypt, Etisalat Misr, and all their customers and partners are, for the moment, off the air."
That has caused concern among observers who believe that internet access – which the Egyptian government limited earlier this week by cutting off social networks – is essential to ensure that government acts responsibly towards its citizens. Tim Bray, an engineer at Google, tweeted: "I feel that as soon as the world can't use the net to watch, awful things will start happening."
Renesys found that: "At 22:34 UTC (00:34am local time), Renesys observed the virtually simultaneous withdrawal of all routes to Egyptian networks in the internet's global routing table. Approximately 3,500 individual BGP [Border Gateway Protocol] routes were withdrawn, leaving no valid paths by which the rest of the world could continue to exchange internet traffic with Egypt's service providers. Virtually all of Egypt's internet addresses are now unreachable, worldwide."
The company notes that Noor Group is the only working connection: "Why was Noor Group apparently unaffected by the countrywide takedown order? Unknown at this point, but we observe that the Egyptian Stock Exchange is still alive at a Noor address."
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Internet, phones down as Egypt braces for protests

CAIRO (AP) -- Internet and cell-phone data services were disrupted across Egypt as authorities used extreme measures to hamper protesters from organizing mass rallies after Friday noon prayers as part of the biggest challenge to the government in decades.

The demonstrations are backed by both the country's biggest opposition group and newly returned Nobel Peace laureate Mohamed ElBaradei.
In response to the threat, Egypt has apparently done what many technologists thought was unthinkable for any country with a major Internet economy: cutting itself off from the web to try and silence a protest movement taking inspiration from the ouster of Tunisia's president this month.

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Re: Internet, phones down as Egypt braces for protests

eeeek, i hope all this is settled before my trip. I am going to Egypt in less than a month!
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

In corrupt and repressive countries, usually, the Ruling party as well as the Oppostion are both corrupt and they are only fighting over the "share" of the spoils rather than welfare of population or the nation.

This revolt is a good effort, but I would still be sceptical about it unless a new popular figure or a party appears to take the reins. What we see now is various Powers scrambling trying to get their "Man" in to take advantage of the revolt and establish power. And then it would again be the same cycle of oppression under a different figurehead.

If I was an Egyptian I would not trust any already influential figure, even a Nobel prize winner unless there is someone new and young with aspirations to make the country better.
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Old 28.01.2011, 14:32
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unless there is someone new and young with aspirations to make the country better.
Youth+Power = Bad combo
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Old 28.01.2011, 14:38
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

I'm wondering what the role of the gulf countries and its allies is in all this;
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/2...s-revolts.html


so aljazeera is allowed to broadcast live from the protests without any censorship?

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

This is very signifcant, if sustained and repeated across the region.

12.59pm: In another extraordinary audio report Jack Shenker in Cairo reports on signs that the police are siding with the protesters. He saw a senior police officer discard a teargas canister to signal to protesters that he was on their side. Will the regime fall he asked a state journalist. "It's already falling, it can't stop," Jack was told.

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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

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The Mid-East is on a roll wow! Keep going
Ya ya, Iran, Tunisia, Egypt, Yemen, and more to come.
Though most of Arabian peninsula seems still behind, but north Africa and some other countries in ME could follow.
In the era of tech. and communnication, things can spread faster than expected.
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Youth+Power = Bad combo
Old age + power = Treachery, maybe?

I think (right kind of) youth has lot of energy and idealism, which can be a positive thing. By old age you already have lot of emotional baggage to see things ideally.

At the end of the its the individual's integrity, whether young or old, but still I'd prefer Youth, with old age and mature Council of Advisors.

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I'm wondering what the role of the gulf countries and its allies is in all this;
http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/01/2...s-revolts.html


so aljazeera is allowed to broadcast live from the protests without any censorship?

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/
I read somewhere Al Jazeera was established/set up by a BBC personnel.

I also read, Iranian Revolution was helped by BBC, broadcasting Ayatollah's sermons via BBC Farsi service.

Though cannot validate those piece of information, but still do bear them in my mind.

CNN rose out of Gulf War 1, Al Jazeera out of Gulf War 2 as the Arab perspective.
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CNN rose out of Gulf War 1, Al Jazeera out of Gulf War 2 as the Arab perspective.
Most Arabs treat Al Jazeera with a healthy dose of cynicism, one popular sentiment is that 'they mix the poison with the honey'. You also have to question how impartial and objective they are when they openly criticise other Arab leaders, all apart from the ruler of Qatar that is
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Old age + power = Treachery, maybe?

I think (right kind of) youth has lot of energy and idealism, which can be a positive thing. By old age you already have lot of emotional baggage to see things ideally.


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You realy think so ,you need a second opinion
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You realy think so ,you need a second opinion
You missed my comment "At the end of the day its the individual's integrity, whether young or old,"

You made a generic rule that youth + power is bad combo, so I said old age + power is also a bad combo.

Maybe you need to construct your arguments more meaningfully?
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Most Arabs treat Al Jazeera with a healthy dose of cynicism, one popular sentiment is that 'they mix the poison with the honey'. You also have to question how impartial and objective they are when they openly criticise other Arab leaders, all apart from the ruler of Qatar that is
The local people of the region, to which any news pertains to, would always know more or can judge the news report based on their personal experiences. Hence most Arabs can treat Al Jazeera, or any news outlet, with cynisim.

But the problem is, the non-Arabs/foreigners who dont have local knowledge can take whats being reported by Al Jazeera as Arab Viewpoint, which can cause a lot of confusion.

But if one read news from various sources, one can to certain extent get a better picture.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

So far only the MB (Muslim brotherhood) has some sort of (scary) vision. All the rest demand a change of regime, but give no details of the day after. Egypt is one of the few ME countries which is a real nation so an Iraqi scenario is unlikely.

The risk that Egypt will go the way of Iran in 1979 is not negligible. Hopefully it will go the way of Poland in 1989.

It's very interesting that the changes are coming from the fringes of the Arab world to the center.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

In addition to say, Egypt is most populated, and pivotal in Arab world, so any changes there, can influence the whole region a lot (though some tribal countries are exceptions).
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"





Where do you see el-Baradei? As I understand he has been described as a supporter of the Iranian ayatollhas and the Muslim Brotherhood (which is linked to Hezbollah). So there is the possibility of a further power shift of the iran-lebanon-iraq shiite influence in middle east?

The US must be plotting as it's happening...


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Do they stop to prey between all that rioting?
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