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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.

Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)

What a country !





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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.

Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)

What a country !


You forgot to mention Shark Attacks.

The nice thing about blaming someone else is that you don't have to take personal responsibility for your own situation. Easy peasy. But it is a victim mentality.
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Old 10.03.2011, 16:20
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

The mossad shark is now patrolling the Sharem El Sheikh area to make sure Mubarak (another Israeli agent) is safe. It communicates with Mossad eagle keeping an eye in the sky.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

I'm not blaming Israel for anything happening in Egypt as i'm sure that this revolution was not sparked by any foreign powers and it's pure Egyptians calling for freedom, but the fact is Israel is always making bad moves in bad times all the time.....that's my only complain

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Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.

Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)

What a country !



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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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You forgot to mention Shark Attacks.

The nice thing about blaming someone else is that you don't have to take personal responsibility for your own situation. Easy peasy. But it is a victim mentality.
Looool......How funny Phos??
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but the fact is Israel is always making bad moves in bad times all the time.....that's my only complain
If only you had facts to back you up, rather than conspiracies.

P.s - Israel already contacted the current Egyptian militrary ruler. Peace is essential to both countries.
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It's quite challenging to fight all this corruption as it infiltrated through most businesses and security agencies in the country, things are being achieved and we're moving forward but still there's some dirty hands creating conspiracies and trying to destroy the society.
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most "conspiracies" in the world are just rumours. But I would opt in favour of relaxation, and not overvalue such rumours

[QUOTE=Mowvich;1131017]On the other hand, Israelis are quite frustrated, anxious and angry about our new government, they just cannot accept our PM "Essam Sharaf" nor FM "Nabil al-Arabi", also
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there were 2 guys caught claiming to be businessmen planning a conspiracy last week related to Moussad to buy out major infrastructure / businesses stocks as soon as the EGY stock market open to control the economy, therefore stock market stays closed for security reasons.
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While I do not see any reason why "Israel" (who there exactly ? ) should be excited about the new leadership on the Nile, I do NOT have the impression that they are "frustrated/anxious/angry" but of course are as concerned as everybody
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And the strange story you serve about the stock-exchange. If Egypt keeps the Stock Exchange closed just due to some rumours, Egypt can keep it closed forever as rumours belong to any stock exchange. AND most of all, Egypt ought to be proud that Israeli finance-folks (regardless of whether it is the Mossad or an Israeli high-tech company or Israeli banks) nowadays consider to invest in Egypt I mean, Egyptians should rather be proud about nowadays being a country where others want to invest

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The nile basin agreement is another file open on the table now, and being dealt with.
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A good read to understand the nile plans: http://desip.igc.org/WillNile1.html
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Interesting things ! Thanks for the info. But what is the matter ? First of all, Hosni Mubarak has possibly done more than any other Egyptian leader for a few thousands of years to bind the Sinaï to mainland-Egypt. And el-Arish in the future may get ahead in importance for two reasons. There is talk about offshore-oil just off the city. And 2nd, the area around el-Arish might become turned into a tourism-area just like Marsa Matruh or Hurghada. And Nile water to Israel ? Sounds weird I admit, but realize that Israel/Palestine population-wise is equalled by Giza/Mohandesseen/Heliopolis in Cairo or by Greater Alexandria (just for comparison). True enough, the Israelis with their living standard may take more water per capita than others in the region, BUT it would not be a free-of-charge gift to them but a highly paid export ! Already Anwar Sadat realized that when the Arab World was not able to conquer the "strange Tiger" by war, it was necessary to tame "the beast" by peaceful means !

It may be worth to follow the advise of Sadat, rather then, to use the famous words of JFK "foolish enough to try to ride the back of the tiger and landed up inside"

the infamous "war of attrition" on the Bar-Lev line heavily influenced Sadat of course. Have you ever, I mean in the mid-70ies, seen the Suez-Canal and this threatening Bar-Lev Line ? If I compare my memory of 1976 Ismaïliya and Suez with my memory of a private rental-car journey to Ismaïliya and Port Saîd in 2002, then to me the peaceful approach is self-rewarding


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Last, Israel just asked the US for 20 Billion $ of military aid to increase their defense A.K.A attack due to current instability (Guess things didn't go as they always planned)
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And what ? For them the ideal moment to press some free-of-charge things out of the USA ! Do not forget that they wanted the stuff anyway but now take the occasion to get it free-of-charge.

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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.
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Who said so ? My private answer : "Pashosh" of course, in pursuit of glory for his country

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
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This MAY show that on one side, some government-owned industries/agencies of Israel find it interesting to invest in Egypt, which would be nice progress right there

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
[QUOTE]
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You may mention these sources, as I never heard about this.
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And if you seriously reconsider, this might be interesting for Israel. Supporting Khaddafi would tame him and would open up Tripolitania for Israeli business ! And supporting the rebels would open up the Cyrenaika for Israeli business ! Sure, the risk of a commercial and political failure, but on the other side a clear WIN--WIN venture

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
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You completely MISunderstand, the question is not about "water mismanaged" but about water sold profitably to rich Israel. Israel in such a venture indirectly would finance progress in the el-Arish Directorate

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)
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Who said so ? My answer: "Pashosh"

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
What a country !
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A country which wants to be in Europe and by some misunderstanding became Middle-Eastern again. A country which in its quest for longterm survival has to come to terms with its not exactly stable and its at times a bit unpredictable environment. But PLEEEEASE, it was the Jews who CHOSE the place, it was NOT the locals between Aleppo and Cairo who advised Mr Herzl to launch the project !






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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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The mossad shark is now patrolling the Sharem El Sheikh area to make sure Mubarak (another Israeli agent) is safe. It communicates with Mossad eagle keeping an eye in the sky.
Come on, if we are in conspiracies, why not go a step ahead further ?! Who can confirm that Hosni Mubarak really still is in Sharm-el-Sheikh ? I tell you, he is in a care-home in Eilat
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I'm not blaming Israel for anything happening in Egypt as i'm sure that this revolution was not sparked by any foreign powers and it's pure Egyptians calling for freedom, but the fact is Israel is always making bad moves in bad times all the time.....that's my only complain
This is rubbish. Mr Netanyahu, as I read, is under criticizm for NOT having made any moves, neither good nor bad ones, since Mubarak got out.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.
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Who said so ? My private answer : "Pashosh" of course, in pursuit of glory for his country

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
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This MAY show that on one side, some government-owned industries/agencies of Israel find it interesting to invest in Egypt, which would be nice progress right there

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
[QUOTE]
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You may mention these sources, as I never heard about this.
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And if you seriously reconsider, this might be interesting for Egypt. Supporting Khaddafi would tame him and would open up Tripolitania for Israeli business ! And supporting the rebels would open up the Cyrenaika for Israeli business ! Sure, the risk of a commercial and political failure, but on the other side a clear WIN--WIN venture

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
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You completely MISunderstand, the question is not about "water mismanaged" but about water sold profitably to rich Israel. Israel in such a venture indirectly would finance progress in the el-Arish Directorate

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)
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Who said so ? My answer: "Pashosh"

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
What a country !
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A country which wants to be in Europe and by some misunderstanding became Middle-Eastern again. A country which in its quest for longterm survival has to come to terms with its not exactly stable and its at times a bit unpredictable environment. But PLEEEEASE, it was the Jews who CHOSE the place, it was NOT the locals between Aleppo and Cairo who advised Mr Herzl to launch the project !
Multiquote & Irony - both are things you need to learn.
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Isn't Israel great ? Whenever there is a problem in Egypt - Israel is the cause.
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Who said so ? My private answer : "Pashosh" of course, in pursuit of glory for his country

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Stock exchange closed - must be because of the Mossad.
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This MAY show that on one side, some government-owned industries/agencies of Israel find it interesting to invest in Egypt, which would be nice progress right there

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Civil war in Libya - Why, it's Israel trying to divert the attention of the Egyptian army. According to Arab and Iranian sources Israel is supporting both the rebels and gaddafi.
[QUOTE]
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You may mention these sources, as I never heard about this.
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And if you seriously reconsider, this might be interesting for Egypt. Supporting Khaddafi would tame him and would open up Tripolitania for Israeli business ! And supporting the rebels would open up the Cyrenaika for Israeli business ! Sure, the risk of a commercial and political failure, but on the other side a clear WIN--WIN venture

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Nile water mismanaged - must be the Israelis with their nefarious plans.
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You completely MISunderstand, the question is not about "water mismanaged" but about water sold profitably to rich Israel. Israel in such a venture indirectly would finance progress in the el-Arish Directorate

[QUOTE=Pashosh;1131072]
Egyptian revolution - The Israelis are behind that too (The internal security suggested it in the documents which it didn't manage to shred)
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Who said so ? My answer: "Pashosh"

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Why Hasn't LA Weekly Corrected its Lara Logan Story?

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http://www.pbs.org/idealab/2011/03/w...-story068.html
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quote "Amn Dawla, or State Security, was scrapped in all local and national government branches, the Egyptian Ministry of Interior announced today"

Very positive move.
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quote "Amn Dawla, or State Security, was scrapped in all local and national government branches, the Egyptian Ministry of Interior announced today"

Very positive move.
al hamd'allah I hope Amn Dawla was replaced by something positive and not 'damn awla' Sorry-I'm in a silly mood!
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quote "Amn Dawla, or State Security, was scrapped in all local and national government branches, the Egyptian Ministry of Interior announced today"

Very positive move.
Scrapped ? or renamed ? "(it) will be replaced by a national security agency will be replaced by a national security agency".

Even the name is not so differenet.

Let's see how this new agency will shape up.
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Scrapped ? or renamed ? "(it) will be replaced by a national security agency will be replaced by a national security agency".

Even the name is not so differenet.

Let's see how this new agency will shape up.
It is eerie how even through revolutions or changes of government, the security agency stays the same with pretty much the same people. Do you think that Mossad has changed with changes of government? Has the CIA changed through the different presidencies?
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Scrapped ? or renamed ? "(it) will be replaced by a national security agency will be replaced by a national security agency".

Even the name is not so differenet.

Let's see how this new agency will shape up.
If they adhere to the statement

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a national security agency that will take over counterterrorism work and will be subject to international human rights standards, according to the ministry.
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then it only can be better. And no name was announced yet, just that there will be "a national security agency"

Trendwise, you however are correct, as the agency already was dissolved President Sadat in about 1971 !
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It is eerie how even through revolutions or changes of government, the security agency stays the same with pretty much the same people. Do you think that Mossad has changed with changes of government? Has the CIA changed through the different presidencies?
State security is not equivalent to CIA / Mossad, it's more like FBI, so now it's cancelled and will start a new agency, name is close but concept is totally difference, they will be supervised by courts of law in their practices
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Why Hasn't LA Weekly Corrected its Lara Logan Story?
Because L.A. Weekly is what we call a free rag that is useful for lining bird cages, and finding out where to go out at night. It really isn't all that useful for factual information, but for creatively written articles. I knew some serious journalists who have worked there, but have come and gone. They may have printed a retraction, but they may not have the ability to edit a published article due to legal copyright issues, or the webmaster is a surfer dude who just totally spaced on his to do list.
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