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Old 25.11.2011, 17:59
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Some Egyptians beg to differ.

The coming elections are so complex - Why couldn't they simply have a 1 person 1 vote ?
You know the Irish expression?

"vote early, vote often"
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Old 25.11.2011, 19:22
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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It took a few months and many dead to convince you that:
1. Egypt is run by a military Junta
2. Egypt's economically prospects are dim.

Eventually you'll see that Egypt won't be a democracy in the next decade.
A) Sure yes, the present rulers ARE a military junta. I cannot guarantee that the really keep word
B) "dim" is the understatement of the year, if you refer to the status-quo. But the prospects are excellent. But the longer the turmoil goes on, the more economic damage gets caused.

That this military Junta pushes ahead with the parliamentary elections basically is good. What the outcome will be is difficult to tell. I even can imagine a kind of Egyptian General Zeroual moving forward to "rescue the nation"

The chance of you to be proven right is between 40 and 60 % . We all know that Egypt has had upheavals and revolutions before (1888, 1949, 1952, for example), and also President Nasser loved to talk about republican Egypt as the "Avant-Garde" of modernity and democracy
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Old 25.11.2011, 22:43
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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You know the Irish expression?

"vote early, vote often"

The more complex the system is, the "smarter" the ballot boxes are.
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Old 08.12.2011, 20:54
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

As expected (by me, anyway) - The Islamists will win a majority of seats in the parlieament (or at least enough to control a coalition), but the Army won't give up power without a fight.

Dark days ahead for Egypt.
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Old 10.12.2011, 01:51
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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As expected (by me, anyway) - The Islamists will win a majority of seats in the parlieament (or at least enough to control a coalition), but the Army won't give up power without a fight.

Dark days ahead for Egypt.
Could not agree more ! Not liking it, but right you are, the leaders of the armed forces will NOT accept that outcome and will "rescue the nation"
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Old 16.12.2011, 18:49
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Apparently, Egypt is not issuing visas to Israeli Jews.
Apart from being racist, it's also a direct violation of the peace treaty.

Sad day for Egypt.
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Old 16.12.2011, 21:49
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Apparently, Egypt is not issuing visas to Israeli Jews.
Apart from being racist, it's also a direct violation of the peace treaty.

Sad day for Egypt.
Egyptians are laggers. Quite ahead is the israeli discriminatory visa entry policy if you happen to have an arab/muslim name....it even forced the US Dep. of state to react. Only citizens with arab/muslim background who travelled through Ben Gurion airport do really know what discrimination really means. A direct violation also of treaties with many nations.
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Old 17.12.2011, 22:14
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Egyptians are laggers. Quite ahead is the israeli discriminatory visa entry policy if you happen to have an arab/muslim name....it even forced the US Dep. of state to react. Only citizens with arab/muslim background who travelled through Ben Gurion airport do really know what discrimination really means. A direct violation also of treaties with many nations.
"What aboutery" without any relation to the discussion.

Meanwhile Egyptian Army/Police managed to kill 9, injure hunderds while a historical library burned.

worse is yet to come.
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Old 18.12.2011, 02:39
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"What aboutery" without any relation to the discussion.

Meanwhile Egyptian Army/Police managed to kill 9, injure hunderds while a historical library burned.

worse is yet to come.
Right, the trend is a military coup of some officers who want to "rescue the nation" and will "schedule the return to democracy" for 2015 or something thelike
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Old 19.12.2011, 12:35
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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"What aboutery" without any relation to the discussion.

Meanwhile Egyptian Army/Police managed to kill 9, injure hunderds while a historical library burned.

worse is yet to come.

And a picture of this security activity

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Old 21.12.2011, 23:31
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

From FT
"Egypt’s military rulers warned on Wednesday that they were confronting a foreign plot to bring down the state and called on the population to “be prepared and show caution”.
In a rare official statement, the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces said there was a plot to “escalate sit-ins and protests and target vital installations” in order to cause the downfall of the state."

All depressingly familiar; "SCAF did not even bother to name the members of a foreign plot" to give some semblance of honesty or reality to the claim of a foreign plot.
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Old 24.12.2011, 01:03
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011...gyptian-forces
sad, sad, sad
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Old 24.12.2011, 22:00
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Isn't it interesting that Abu Ghraib got so much attention, but it was more humane than the average Arab jail ?
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Old 24.12.2011, 22:31
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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Isn't it interesting that Abu Ghraib got so much attention, but it was more humane than the average Arab jail ?
a definitive answer can only be made once we have complete access to the remaining unpublished photo assets of abu ghraib (i.e too shocking content).
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Old 24.12.2011, 23:10
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

There was 1 Abu Ghraib - compare that to hundreds of Jails in the Arab world. conspiracy theories won't let you off the hook.
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Old 24.12.2011, 23:16
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

do we compare the severity or number of violations?

What conspiracy are you talking about? The Abu Ghraib story is well documented and Obama decided not to publish the remaining assets.

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Old 24.12.2011, 23:32
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

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do we compare the severity or number of violations?

What conspiracy are you talking about? The Abu Ghraib story is well documented and Obama decided to to publish the remaining assets.
Both in severity & number the Arabs "win" (The inmates in Abu-G got to keep their penises attached, for example).

You mentioned "unpublished pictures" which will show that Abu-G was even more terrible than currently known. hence the conpsiracy reference.

Meanwhile Egypt is slipping further - The Islamists are now in absolute Majority.
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Old 03.01.2012, 14:28
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Brotherhood's realpolitik at work
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Old 03.01.2012, 15:22
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]



Good to see.

Today's quote "The Muslim Brotherhood has said it "will not recognise Israel under any circumstances" and will hold a referendum on the peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. The report is based on an interview given by the group's deputy head to the London-based al-Hayat newspaper."

Does "under any circumstances" mean even if the referundum should give the OK to continuing the peace treaty?

One way to confront the ruling military I guess!
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Old 03.01.2012, 15:32
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Here's my input on the majority winners in the coming Parliament:

MB / FJP: Proven to be good politicians, they learned from their 83 years history, they won't go strict and probably have a good development strategies (I'm not Pro MB but i would definitely support them if they keep on the right track)

Salafi's / Nour: Such a crap party presented by crap people who would praise anyone to benefit (Ex-partners of State Security)....illegally sponsored by Qatar & Kuwait, total amount of US$ 48.5 million in 2011 only (No Government Supervision)

Concerning the Israeli PT, no one said it will be canceled but many articles need to be modified, we're in 2011 not 1978 no more.

Concerning the SCAF, they're playing their very last cards to try to stay in power & be over the laws / constitution to protect their corruption.....but they won't....this i assure you.
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