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We're actually founders of "Almasreyeen AlAhrar (Free Egyptians)" party which is part of the Egyptian Block.
What are your immediate goals ? who are your representatives in the parliament ?
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Old 26.01.2012, 22:56
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The "Nascent democracy" is now holding americans as hostages.

Some habits are so hard to break.
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Old 27.01.2012, 05:31
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@Mr. Vertigo - your false comments have nothing to do with this thread.

@mowvich - Congratulations on the 1st anniversary of the revolution. I hope that although Egyptians voted for antisemite bigots with no experience the Egyptian economy will stop its rapid deterioration, citizens will have a chance of a functioning economy (despite the drop in tourism and export) and personal and religious freedoms (also copts, who are migrating in increasing numbers).

btw, How did your party do in the elections ?

Maybe the world is wrong and Egypt is on it's way up ?

The first argument positive about Egypt ! Egypt NEEDS a low rate for the EG£ in order to sell its products. Another positive thing is that tourism is back enroute with bookings already being placed.

The next thing will be the presidential elections. Egypt being the centralist and presidential republic, most likely will give the state-president the right to appoint the new ministers

Another aspect is the Prime Minster. In a parliamentary democracy, the leader of the largest party in parliament, in this case the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, would automatically get the nomination to build a coalition government, but as outlined above ...............
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Old 27.01.2012, 10:55
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The first argument positive about Egypt ! Egypt NEEDS a low rate for the EG£ in order to sell its products. Another positive thing is that tourism is back enroute with bookings already being placed.

The next thing will be the presidential elections. Egypt being the centralist and presidential republic, most likely will give the state-president the right to appoint the new ministers

Another aspect is the Prime Minster. In a parliamentary democracy, the leader of the largest party in parliament, in this case the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, would automatically get the nomination to build a coalition government, but as outlined above ...............
Actually - Egyptian tourism dropped by 33-50% (official records considered Libyan refugees & Gazans as tourists to shore up the numbers a bit).

The lack of security in Cairo, Holding tourist captive, Bedouin unrest in Sinai & Islamist regime are likely to deter tourists from coming.

For tourism employees, making 150 CHF per month (1000 EGP), the prospects are dim.
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Old 28.01.2012, 04:47
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Actually - Egyptian tourism dropped by 33-50% (official records considered Libyan refugees & Gazans as tourists to shore up the numbers a bit).

The lack of security in Cairo, Holding tourist captive, Bedouin unrest in Sinai & Islamist regime are likely to deter tourists from coming.

For tourism employees, making 150 CHF per month (1000 EGP), the prospects are dim.
> 33-50 is a favourable figure. It in 2011 dropped in reality by between 70 and 80% ! So that if I now speak about "returning" I mean to a level of some 75% of 2006

> "dim" this may be, but it is their only chance

> the lack of security may become THE real problem
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Old 31.01.2012, 14:07
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> 33-50 is a favourable figure. It in 2011 dropped in reality by between 70 and 80% ! So that if I now speak about "returning" I mean to a level of some 75% of 2006

> "dim" this may be, but it is their only chance

> the lack of security may become THE real problem
All theoretical unfortunately - when the newly voted-in Islamists ban swimwear & other "revealing" clothing then you will be able to kiss the tourist industry goodbye.
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Old 31.01.2012, 14:51
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All theoretical unfortunately - when the newly voted-in Islamists ban swimwear & other "revealing" clothing then you will be able to kiss the tourist industry goodbye.
This won't happen ever.....FJP Chief + Muslim Brotherhood Morshed went to the touristic areas in Luxor and cairo to welcome tourists and discuss with them, they assured that this is absolutely not in their plans as they totally believe tourism in Egypt is a very vital economic sector that must be maintained rather than limited.

In addition, we know the way now and we won't hesitate to take down the streets if we don't like what the parliament says.....it's our country and parliament is nothing but representatives of the people, nothing more than that
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Old 01.02.2012, 01:38
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All theoretical unfortunately - when the newly voted-in Islamists ban swimwear & other "revealing" clothing then you will be able to kiss the tourist industry goodbye.
Absolutely so ! If they really get radical against swimwear, clothing of women, and alcoholic beverages, not only tourism will be doomed but the "exodus" out of Egypt may jump to late 1950ies proportions ! And this will mean that exactly qualified people will get out
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Old 01.02.2012, 01:43
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This won't happen ever.....FJP Chief + Muslim Brotherhood Morshed went to the touristic areas in Luxor and cairo to welcome tourists and discuss with them, they assured that this is absolutely not in their plans as they totally believe tourism in Egypt is a very vital economic sector that must be maintained rather than limited.

In addition, we know the way now and we won't hesitate to take down the streets if we don't like what the parliament says.....it's our country and parliament is nothing but representatives of the people, nothing more than that
I in the past on the beaches of Alexandria enjoyed beachlife with some beer, had some wines and/or vodka in restaurants and hotel bars, and when in Cairo enjoyed most excellent wines in restaurants not only in hotels but in "Garden City" (downtown), and bought three bottles of Red Egyptian wine in that wine-shop near the Ramses station. I hope that all this is not subject to eradication ! but that Egypt will remain fairly liberal.
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Old 01.02.2012, 01:44
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I in the past on the beaches of Alexandria enjoyed beachlife with some beer, had some wines and/or vodka in restaurants and hotel bars, and when in Cairo enjoyed most excellent wines in restaurants not only in hotels but in "Garden City" (downtown), and bought three bottles of Red Egyptian wine in that wine-shop near the Ramses station. I hope that all this is not subject to eradication ! but that Egypt will remain fairly liberal.
It will and forever....you're mostly welcome to join me there and we get drunk sitting by the nile and walking in the streets of cairo at 4 am
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Old 01.02.2012, 19:34
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It will and forever....you're mostly welcome to join me there and we get drunk sitting by the nile and walking in the streets of cairo at 4 am
Shame that Egypt is a xenophobic, antisemitic country - or I would have joined you.

Even football fans are not immune

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Shame that Egypt is a xenophobic, antisemitic country - or I would have joined you.

Even football fans are not immune
> football fans are xenophobic everywhere, why should Egyptian football fans be different ? > Egypt is the largest semitic country, while Israel is a country full of Europeans pretending to be of "Semitic origin"

IF things turn out as "Mowvich" promises, you for sure also are invited to join the "group" --- I cannot exactly explain why I am fairly confident that his forecast is right .. but I have visited Egypt several times over the decades .... Cairo was the point where I at the end of travels twice phoned Mum to say "all is alright, just back in Cairo"; sure this would not have been appropriate in the past 12 months, but hopefully will be so again
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Shame that Egypt is a xenophobic, antisemitic country - or I would have joined you.

Even football fans are not immune
If you analyzed the situation for a second, you would have clearly seen that it was rather intentional act from the authorities to punish the Ultras Ahlawy which are the revolution's biggest supporters....but no worries about that, now Ultras Ahlawy, Ultras White Knights and all other Ultras + Revolutionaries are going to give hard times to MOI / Government / SCAF.....it all started couple of hours ago, you might wanna watch the news

End of, we're not backing off...we're going to have our country back once and for all
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> football fans are xenophobic everywhere, why should Egyptian football fans be different ? > Egypt is the largest semitic country, while Israel is a country full of Europeans pretending to be of "Semitic origin"

IF things turn out as "Mowvich" promises, you for sure also are invited to join the "group" --- I cannot exactly explain why I am fairly confident that his forecast is right .. but I have visited Egypt several times over the decades .... Cairo was the point where I at the end of travels twice phoned Mum to say "all is alright, just back in Cairo"; sure this would not have been appropriate in the past 12 months, but hopefully will be so again
Just be careful what you say when you are in Cairo....
"One of the Arab world's most famous comic actors Adel Imam has received a three-month jail sentence in Egypt for insulting Islam in films and plays, a court document has shown.
Imam, who has frequently poked fun at authorities and politicians during a 40-year career, has one month to appeal and will remain free until that process is concluded.
The case was brought by Asran Mansour, a lawyer with ties to Islamist groups, judicial sources said. The sentence on Thursday came weeks after Islamists won most seats in a parliamentary election."
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> football fans are xenophobic everywhere, why should Egyptian football fans be different ? > Egypt is the largest semitic country, while Israel is a country full of Europeans pretending to be of "Semitic origin"

IF things turn out as "Mowvich" promises, you for sure also are invited to join the "group" --- I cannot exactly explain why I am fairly confident that his forecast is right .. but I have visited Egypt several times over the decades .... Cairo was the point where I at the end of travels twice phoned Mum to say "all is alright, just back in Cairo"; sure this would not have been appropriate in the past 12 months, but hopefully will be so again
You've been there, that's why you know it...it's something you feel not explain or talk about
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If you analyzed the situation for a second, you would have clearly seen that it was rather intentional act from the authorities to punish the Ultras Ahlawy which are the revolution's biggest supporters....but no worries about that, now Ultras Ahlawy, Ultras White Knights and all other Ultras + Revolutionaries are going to give hard times to MOI / Government / SCAF.....it all started couple of hours ago, you might wanna watch the news

End of, we're not backing off...we're going to have our country back once and for all
of course you have no proof for this conspiracy, while videos show masses of Egyptians fighting one another as they have been doing for the last year.

In one thing you are right - you are getting the country you deserve, where actors are jailed, crime is rampant and the economy going down the drain (ironic, as drains are quite rare in Egypt)
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of course you have no proof for this conspiracy, while videos show masses of Egyptians fighting one another as they have been doing for the last year.

In one thing you are right - you are getting the country you deserve, where actors are jailed, crime is rampant and the economy going down the drain (ironic, as drains are quite rare in Egypt)
You know what, it's really useless discussing with you...it's our country and we do what we want with it...End Off
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You know what, it's really useless discussing with you...it's our country and we do what we want with it...End Off
Who is stopping you from running your country ? the evidence of the Egyptian skill of running a country is clear.

Even Sepp Blatter sees it.

How exactly will you manage to have a functioning economy (let alone a democracy) when even a football game ends with a massacre ?
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Who is stopping you from running your country ? the evidence of the Egyptian skill of running a country is clear.

Even Sepp Blatter sees it.

How exactly will you manage to have a functioning economy (let alone a democracy) when even a football game ends with a massacre ?
You don't seem to get what is going on at all, corrupt regime is still in power, SCAF is nothing but Mubarak muppets and they're punishing us for revolting, therefore we're continuing, corrupt regime should fall first then we consider anything else afterwards.....for now, the main target is to remove SCAF from power and trial them...that's the priority.

And if you don't know, revolutions take time to accomplish targets (French Revolution took 10 years)...we're still in year one, we're still standing the fight and we're continuing till we accomplish all targets as long as it takes.
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You don't seem to get what is going on at all, corrupt regime is still in power, SCAF is nothing but Mubarak muppets and they're punishing us for revolting, therefore we're continuing, corrupt regime should fall first then we consider anything else afterwards.....for now, the main target is to remove SCAF from power and trial them...that's the priority.

And if you don't know, revolutions take time to accomplish targets (French Revolution took 10 years)...we're still in year one, we're still standing the fight and we're continuing till we accomplish all targets as long as it takes.
I pointed out to the army's real role when you were chanting in Tahrir "The army and the people are one".

Go ahead - get rid of them if you can. no one will shed any tears when the old, corrupt Generals are gone.

You will be then alone against the MB & Nour. They have the vast majority of Egyptians with them, a strong organization & are not shy of using violence. You have twitter.

What will happen then ?
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