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Old 29.01.2011, 00:30
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Mubarak is not backing down and will protect egypt. He will take mesures to stop the manifestations...

So what next?
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

so Mubarak dismissed the gov and calls for the creation of new one with the mission to tackle unemployment, poverty etc....
Funny it's almost the same speech as BenAli 4 weeks ago.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Sorry for the late update, but i were seriously torn all day between HRW and media communications as all comm's were down in Egypt and I among others needed to cover the situation and get the right image to the world.

Sadly, after all the efforts and blood shedding today, Mubarak didn't really get the people's demand as the first demand is him going down, therefore we (Egyptians) are going to continue the protests against his regime, old or new, till he resigns.

Also, we had several businessmen reported fleeing the country on private jets (Confirmed sources) and supposedly the presidents family (Unconfirmed), also Mubarak have been reported landing in king khaled airport in SA around 10 pm by airport personals (cannot confirm that till tomorrow), his speech seems to have been recorded earlier as it didn't include several facts that happened later on the day, in addition it was not recorded in the presidential palace, that's for sure.

Here's some photos of today that's been included in a HRW referendum we are preparing to be submitted later this week.
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so Mubarak dismissed the gov and calls for the creation of new one with the mission to tackle unemployment, poverty etc....
Funny it's almost the same speech as BenAli 4 weeks ago.
I'm sure a new Tourism Minister will really help calm the crowds.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

I hope that he is in SA because what I heard tonight was disappointing.

I met with some Egyptians they said the following : that you can phone landlines in Egypt so information can get out. Also they explained some way that people in Cyprus have cell phone or internet connecting, which I didn't really understand.

They say that the police were themselves setting fire to property to say that these are not peaceful protests. That propaganda on TV in Cairo blames everything on the Muslim brotherhood which they translate as a ' forbidden but tolerated party', that corruption is rife and has been institutionalized.

The worrying thing, they said is that the police have been on duty for 4 days, now they must rest and the army will take over. The army are in league with the elite and corrupt, they could say 'enough' and start massacring people tomorrow

That El Baradei can only be an interim leader, he is not well known in Egypt. The leader of the Arab league Amr Moussa is too old and he doesn't want to do it. So there is a power vacuum and no-one to lead it. The US is in a very difficult position they may hope that someone acceptable form the military will step forward, but whoever it is will have to accept the agreement between Egypt and Israel; an agreement which is unpopular with the Egyptian people.

that in any case anyone who steps forward from the military would most probably intend to maintain the status quo and would, like Musharaf of Pakistan be in power for some time

So that's what they said and I don't believe it, because I don't want to but they are very worried about bloodshed tomorrow.

But since Pashish was asking why there was mention of Turkey on this thread there is this from Moussa:

The secretary general of the Arab League said on Thursday that Turkey had a significant role in solution of regional problems.
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Amr Moussa said that the incidents in Tunisia, Egypt and some Arab countries were a reflection of the uneasiness in the Arab world.
Turkey had a significant role in solution of regional problems, Moussa said in Davos, Switzerland on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum (WEF).
http://www.todayszaman.com/news-2336...-problems.html

The promise to dismiss the government is ludicrous, because the government should have been disolved a couple of weeks ago anyway.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Suez and Alexandria seem to be the most active cities in demonstrating. Any egyptian can shed a light on why Suez is so erupting in demonstrations.

Some ISPs in europe & egypt offer dial-up connections for internet access funny on how old-technology can be still useful to avoid censorship.
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.................... but whoever it is will have to accept the agreement between Egypt and Israel; an agreement which is unpopular with the Egyptian people.
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Sorry to chop your post about but I am interested in the one statement I have left.

On what do you base this statement? When I was in Egypt I met a number of people who spoke about the benefits but nobody who spoke against it.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

To my egyptian friends, my heart is with you.
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Suez and Alexandria seem to be the most active cities in demonstrating. Any egyptian can shed a light on why Suez is so erupting in demonstrations
This article on Suez might help explain it.
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Suez and Alexandria seem to be the most active cities in demonstrating. Any egyptian can shed a light on why Suez is so erupting in demonstrations.

Some ISPs in europe & egypt offer dial-up connections for internet access funny on how old-technology can be still useful to avoid censorship.
Suez is always the highest demonstrating cities in Egypt due to it's location, it's always been the first front against any eastern invasion, in addition, it's does have some of the highest profitable economic resources and highest unemployment too.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

We're currently starting a campaign to define and unite the Egyptian population demands, as asking for Mubarak to step down with no alternative will leave Egypt venerable and in total chaos, due to the lack of authorities and major political fails, everyone seems to agree on Amr Moussa as the new president.

We're trying to provide as much support from all around the world to Egyptian streets now.

Funny enough, i have never been patriotic nor involved in politics, but once my country got into danger, something big just sparked inside me and it's growing bigger
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

did you hear about ELbaradei and Wafd party uniting as alternative to take up after Mubarak leave?
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did you hear about ELbaradei and Wafd party uniting as alternative to take up after Mubarak leave?
ELbaradei is still under house arrest as i know but on the other hand, i don't think he's the right guy for the job now, it's too late and too complicated for him to handle, he haven't lived long in the country and don't really know how actually it is going.

On the contrary, lots of people see Amr Moussa as the best candidate, as he's been in Egyptian politics for years and years, very well educated, very political and experienced.

The fact ISPs are still blocking, is really limiting me from doing more, i wanted to travel today but my permit is still being renewed and cannot leave without visa...it's a whole mess, think i will do it first thing monday or tuesday.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Current update: 10's thousands demonstrators all over the country still asking Mubarak to resign breaking into the curfew, this whole thing is just shocking, Egyptians totally broke the fear barriers and nothing can stop them, young are guarding the country and army helping them, huge sense of solidarity and harmony within the nation, everyone is taking on their responsibilities, stopping robberies and break ins all over.

I don't know how Mubarak is thinking but if his reaction shows anything it's simply he's a real dictator who refuses to lose his power.

It's all simple, people don't want him, if he have resigned 3 days ago, we wouldn't have reached all this chaos.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

Latest Developments:

Omar Suleiman, Head of the Egyptian Intelligence Agency and one of the most reputable men in his field has been sworn as a vice president just now.

Guess that Mubarak's regime is coming to an End, not total democracy but it would save the country in the current situation.
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Re: Egypt- "Jan25_ Day of revolution"

A CNN reporter said he had heard reports that people are storming the ministry of the interior and live rounds are being fired. Once agin they are breaking the curfew which was 4pm- now 5:30pm. It might be difficult to get a flight, most are suspended.
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A CNN reporter said he had heard reports that people are storming the ministry of the interior and live rounds are being fired. Once agin they are breaking the curfew which was 4pm- now 5:30pm. It might be difficult to get a flight, most are suspended.
It's all fine now, people and army are in harmony now, still we have to see the reaction regarding the new VP, i don't think people would accept him.
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Latest Developments:

Omar Suleiman, Head of the Egyptian Intelligence Agency and one of the most reputable men in his field has been sworn as a vice president just now.

Guess that Mubarak's regime is coming to an End, not total democracy but it would save the country in the current situation.
Mubarak's family arrived in London. So I guess Omar Suleiman will take over tonight or tomorrow. The big question if this will prepare transition to democracy. I doubt given profile of Suleiman.
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