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Morsi is now doing a surprisingly good job in this area of tackling Sinai based militants & removing opponents in the security services; let us hope he continues......
Will the Egyptian army fighting the Bedouins be more successful than the Turkish army fighting the Kurds ?

The smuggling business is big business, and the only business for the Bedouins - they will not give up easily.

Note the complete silence from the MFO
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Will the Egyptian army fighting the Bedouins be more successful than the Turkish army fighting the Kurds ?

The smuggling business is big business, and the only business for the Bedouins - they will not give up easily.

Note the complete silence from the MFO
Not true, they write "no MFO personnel have been injured or attacked in any of the recent tragic events taking place in the North Sinai"

Nothing about their implementation of their mission e.g "implementation of the security provisions of the Egyptian-Israeli Treaty of Peace and employ best efforts to prevent any violation of its terms"
but one cannot have everything I suppose
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Morsi is now doing a surprisingly good job in this area of tackling Sinai based militants & removing opponents in the security services; let us hope he continues......
Interesting is to see that President Mursi now has come under attack from fundamentalists and had to get assistance from Marshal Tantawi.
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Will the Egyptian army fighting the Bedouins be more successful than the Turkish army fighting the Kurds ?

The smuggling business is big business, and the only business for the Bedouins - they will not give up easily.

Note the complete silence from the MFO
> the MFO ? It has nothing to do with them, as it is an internal Egyptian affair

> "the Bedouins" ? Who exactly ?

> the problem is NOT the smuggling. The problem is that Egyptian police and army stations were attacked. The Egyptian state will not give up easily.
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Old 12.08.2012, 20:04
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Interesting is to see that President Mursi now has come under attack from fundamentalists and had to get assistance from Marshal Tantawi.
Interesting moves by Morsi, proving to be a real strong man.
Egypt's president, Mohamed Morsi, has ordered Egypt's two top generals to retire and revoked a military-declared constitutional amendment that gave them wide powers. Field Marshall Hussein Tantawi, who led Egypt after Hosni Mubarak was ousted, retires as defence minster and Sami Enan steps down as chief of staff.
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Interesting moves by Morsi, proving to be a real strong man.
Egypt's president, Mohamed Morsi, has ordered Egypt's two top generals to retire and revoked a military-declared constitutional amendment that gave them wide powers. Field Marshall Hussein Tantawi, who led Egypt after Hosni Mubarak was ousted, retires as defence minster and Sami Enan steps down as chief of staff.
So that "Mowvich" was right when saying that Mr Mursi is a capable man ! Particularily interesting is the retiring of Marshal Tantawi. The man fairly early said he would only stay until the transition was complete. I frankly spoken did not believe him but now have to see that he was honest.

Back to Mr Mursi. Checked up his biography. An interesting chap. Here some details

Mohammed Mursi studied enginerring at the University of Cairo. He thereafter made a degree at the University of Southern California. He than was active as lecturer at the Cairo University and at the California State University. He then became lecturer at the Zagazig University. He and his wife have 5 children of whom two were born in California and so also are citizens of the USA.

I do not find any info about his links to the armed forces, but it looks as if he has quite good relations with some rather younger commanders of the force

He in recent days managed to get a credit of 2 billions US Dollars from Qatar in order to kick up the economy of his country.

As an add-on, I have to say that when checking up latest news I saw that Mursi has FORCED Tantawi to retire, AND has replaced the whole top brass of the armed forces within ONE single day ! A kind of coup d'etat out of the Presidency.

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Old 13.08.2012, 19:19
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Morsi appointed a Sissi to be the new minister of defence.

He also ordered to seize all the copies of a newspaper which insulted him.

Democracy, Egyptian style.
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Morsi appointed a Sissi to be the new minister of defence.

He also ordered to seize all the copies of a newspaper which insulted him.

Democracy, Egyptian style.
General Sisi is a long-time secret-service man, which means a man I would NOT trust ever.

And yes, Mr Mursi by such moves in regard to feel "insulted" is swiftly becoming another dictator.

All in all, a risky gamble.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

from today's papers
"Egyptian protesters, largely ultraconservative Islamists, climbed the walls of the US embassy in Cairo on Tuesday, made their way into the courtyard and brought down the flag, replacing it with a black flag with an Islamic inscription to protest a film attacking Islam's prophet, Muhammad."

Oh dear, the rule of law sliding down the toilet.....
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Similar scenes at US consulate in Benghazi
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Old 06.12.2012, 15:16
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Egypt getting more unstable by the hour - the Muslim Brotherhood + Salafists against everybody else.

My money is on the MB - better organized, not tainted by connections to Mubarak's regime, and more united than the seculars+christians+army.
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Egypt getting more unstable by the hour - the Muslim Brotherhood + Salafists against everybody else.

My money is on the MB - better organized, not tainted by connections to Mubarak's regime, and more united than the seculars+christians+army.
Guess you'll lose your money, you're betting on a dead horse.....opposition is being armed, army and police officers are joining opposition in civilian clothes and we'll hunt them down...we all lost patience, they want it war then bring it on.....we've stood against fully armed police & army....so MB is not such a big deal, Morsi's days are counted really
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Guess you'll lose your money, you're betting on a dead horse.....opposition is being armed, army and police officers are joining opposition in civilian clothes and we'll hunt them down...we all lost patience, they want it war then bring it on.....we've stood against fully armed police & army....so MB is not such a big deal, Morsi's days are counted really
I'll be happy to lose it if Egypt will have a chance of democracy.

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we'll hunt them down...we all lost patience, they want it war then bring it on....
Yet another Arab civil war. terrible.
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

So the Pharoah has declared a state of emergency; just like old times.
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So the Pharoah has declared a state of emergency; just like old times.
Massive demonstrations are already deployed in the the 3 cities which are affected by the state of emergency / curfew (Port Said, Suez & Ismailia / Canal Suez Region)

He's doing the same mistake again, he's threatening a nation that won't ever accept being threatened again....response will be really painful to him and his gang
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Re: Egypt "Jan 25 - Day of revolution" [Update: Mubarak resigns]

Some footage on how the curfew / emergency law is doing in Egypt at the moment

Cairo Supporting the Curfew





Port Said (Affected by Curfew)





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Suez (Affected by Curfew)





As expected, Morsi's speech sparked more anger against him.....it's a deja vu of what exactly happened in 2011

P.S: Actually the rest of the Egyptian cities now are feeling shame cause they don't have curfew nor emergency....they feel the didn't do enough effort or not being courageous enough
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Guess you'll lose your money, you're betting on a dead horse.....opposition is being armed, army and police officers are joining opposition in civilian clothes and we'll hunt them down...we all lost patience, they want it war then bring it on.....we've stood against fully armed police & army....so MB is not such a big deal, Morsi's days are counted really
If I've understood your post correctly, that sounds ABSOLUTELY nuts. How can the country gain any stability when people decide to arm themselves and threaten to "hunt down" those on the other side of the political fence??? I'm guessing once their opponents are hunted down they won't be invited to change their political leanings over a cup of tea?

So tell me, once you have toppled Morsi and the MB would you have any problem if the MB decide to use the same tactics you are advocating now on the new leadership and its supporters?

Recipe for chaos man. I'll take Western democracy over that any day where the supporters of the losing parties don't go mental because they lost at the polls.
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If I've understood your post correctly, that sounds ABSOLUTELY nuts. How can the country gain any stability when people decide to arm themselves and threaten to "hunt down" those on the other side of the political fence??? I'm guessing once their opponents are hunted down they won't be invited to change their political leanings over a cup of tea?

So tell me, once you have toppled Morsi and the MB would you have any problem if the MB decide to use the same tactics you are advocating now on the new leadership and its supporters?

Recipe for chaos man. I'll take Western democracy over that any day where the supporters of the losing parties don't go mental because they lost at the polls.
There's a big difference between being political opponent and facing armed militias which is the case of the MB, we went all the way to discussing, negotiating and being a decent opposition that is willing to participate in constructive decision making to build the country.

This all ended the moment we found MB's armed militias in the streets attacking opposition and demonstrators with no investigation whatsoever in such incidents & MB's totally refusing to participate in any political dialogue, this took the whole the situation to totally another level, we're not talking about political opposition here, we're taking about terrorism and right to defend ourselves and our country from being hijacked by punch or fanatics and armed terrorists.

P.S: We're not talking about just revolutionaries here.....the entire nation apart from the MB's are actually going against them....so if the voice of the nation isn't heard, then what else
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Massive demonstrations are already deployed in the the 3 cities which are affected by the state of emergency / curfew (Port Said, Suez & Ismailia / Canal Suez Region)

He's doing the same mistake again, he's threatening a nation that won't ever accept being threatened again....response will be really painful to him and his gang

The basic mistake of him is that he when becoming elected thought he was elected as emperor-for-life not really accepting the limits to his job, set by parliament and justice and people and set by the term of office. He lived in the USA and should have seen that an elected US president knows about the 4years limit and the limits set by the power of the Congress.
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If I've understood your post correctly, that sounds ABSOLUTELY nuts. How can the country gain any stability when people decide to arm themselves and threaten to "hunt down" those on the other side of the political fence??? I'm guessing once their opponents are hunted down they won't be invited to change their political leanings over a cup of tea?

So tell me, once you have toppled Morsi and the MB would you have any problem if the MB decide to use the same tactics you are advocating now on the new leadership and its supporters?

Recipe for chaos man. I'll take Western democracy over that any day where the supporters of the losing parties don't go mental because they lost at the polls.
Reminds me of the days when HElmut Schmidt had to hand over political rule in WestGermany to Helmut Kohl. I was asked by a Syrian national But can Mr Schmidt continue to live in Germany and work in Germany or has he to get into exile ? I responded Mr Schmidt is still a member of the German Federal parliament and a member of his party and an influential journalist and has no reason to leave his country which resulted in a long moment of silence, and then she realized the difference.

The problem of Mr Mursi and his party is that they were voted into power out of protest but NOT because people agreed with them. Mr Mursi may well be forced into arranging new parliamentary and presidential elections, which may bring quite different results. Hosni Mubarak in his times of rule had built up what I describe as a civil society and then was surprised when exactly this society no longer accepted his dictatorial autocratic and endless rule (dementia/senility)

But just look back at Messrs Adenauer and deGaulle. Both were successful and highly admired and both then were frustrated when it became apparent that people were fed up with them

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