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Yes that is indeed a timeless quote Natasha!

Now some images from the type of people who support War in Iraq.
Hey, don't forget this guy:

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That's not fair. Bigger boys made him do it .
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Re: 9/11 - nearly 5 years on

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Hey, don't forget this guy:

Ah yes... Tony Blair. The fountain of misinformation himself....
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Re: 9/11 - nearly 5 years on

With the 20th anniversary of 9/11 looming, I thought I would revive this old thread started by an EF legend, Lob. If you are still on EF, would be interested to hear if you have any new thoughts/theories.

I just watched Loose Change 9/11 - An American Coup, which I believe is the last chapter in the Loose Change series. Still so many unanswered questions. Really, it is the Mother of all conspiracy theories. My plan is to stay indoors tomorrow in case there are any groups out there trying to send a message.

Prayers to the families affected 20yrs ago and to those still suffering from the aftermath...

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The reason I start this thread is that, coming up to five years post-9/11, I watched Loose Change - 2nd Edition last night.

I found it, whilst one-sided of course (like Michael Moore's Fahrenheit 9/11), to be compelling viewing and of great interest. The Google-hosted Video is 1 hour 22 minutes long. You may wish to find it on P2P networks as it will be better quality.

Warning: it is of course about that fateful day in 2001 and whatever you think and believe happened that day, one truth cannot be denied: just short of 3000 people died.

The question this video asks are - WHY - and more importantly - WAS BIN LADEN RESPONSIBLE? It offers subplots of conspiracy, deception and lies allegedly orchestrated by the Bush administration.

Previously, I believe that perhaps he was but also had doubts as to how much was known and how much led back to CIA training in Afghanistan and so-on. I freely admit that this and Moore's movie are one-sided and well-edited but the conspiracists are perhaps winning me over; certainly I'd need a large pinch of salt after watching Loose Change to not somewhat agree with them.

NOTE: whilst you're free to reply to this thread, you should keep it on-topic. What I am saying here is I want your interpretation of what you watched, what you already knew and what you believe. You might also want to read a little from Wikipedia before replying too.

As this could be quite a touchy subject, I have to point out that racial slurs, personal attacks and other antisocial posts will be deleted or edited. Bans might follow if necessary.

If you don't want to post nor read this, please feel free to not open this thread.
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Re: 9/11 - nearly 5 years on

Even more interesting, it seems that 20 years later, we've come full cycle.
Taliban once again at the helm in Afghanistan - though it remains to be seen if they're "more moderate" this time or just "same-same but different".

Even more absurd is that it seems likely that the US "needs" the Taliban to fight ISIS-K.

Which would put the relationship right back to when it all started, when the US supplied weapons to UBL and friends to fight the USSR.

And if that wasn't enough it looks like the Taliban are trying to take a page from the post-WW2-days book of the King of Afghanistan, by getting the USSR and China to compete for influence, money, aid in exchange for access to natural resources.


As for the conspiracy theories...

I liked "The new pearl Harbor":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1GCeuSr3Mk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7mDXHn_byA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DegLpgJmFL8

The problem is that most of the original documents mentioned in the videos have by now vanished from the internet.

And some claims are hard to verify, because, again, it's 20 years.

E.g. there's the claim that a Bush-relative was running security in the Twin-Towers (and the bomb-sniffing dogs were gone the days before 9/11) - but what I could find was the contract was terminated a while before 9/11.

One of the more prominent figures of the 911-truthers movement is/was a janitor in the Twin Towers, who also happened to be a part-time magician.
He said that "magic" is just diversion and you can play even the most absurd trick, if the diversion is large or loud enough.

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Re: 9/11 - nearly 5 years on

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Even more absurd is that it seems likely that the US "needs" the Taliban to fight ISIS-K.
Maybe that's why the US has armed the Taliban to the teeth?
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