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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

Apparently Gaddafi had a crush for Condoleeza Rice. Rebels found in Gaddafi's compound a collection of Condoleeza's pics. He must have a shrine dedicated to her for sure.
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Old 26.08.2011, 23:01
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Apparently Gaddafi had a crush for Condoleeza Rice.
I heard about this, Condoleeza hasn't commented yet. Anderson thought it was very funny; he's probably relieved that it wasn't him. I think its a match made in heaven.
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Old 27.08.2011, 23:13
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

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I wonder if it is this ( below) they should have been available in Summer 2010?



[URL="http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/10/13/world/main5380905.shtml"]

Perhaps they want to try it out- see if it works?
Nice idea but a tornado can not carry a 15 ton bomb; for that you need a big US bomber
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

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Perhaps someone with a bit of edookashion can help me - I was having a conversation earlier this evening about this very thread with my OH, and was asked a couple of tricky questions, one of which I wasn't able to answer..
  1. "Is Leebya an undeveloped country, is it a third-world country, or is it just a sh1thole?"

  2. "What civilised person gives a feck anyway ?"
Now I know the answer to the second question, but I am not sure of the answer to the first question. Perhaps someone who has no emotional ties to the area can provide an objective answer?
1. My first impression of Libya was that there were a lot of horticultural farms - plenty of fresh food including dates, citrus and other fruits. Tripoli: no huge hypermarkets, but very many small family run shops. A beautiful coastline for swimming in the Med for 9 months of the year. Lots of cars, buses and taxis. Only the very poor rode bikes in Tripoli ( apart from me) generally the people from more southern neighbouring countries. The Libyans didn't seem to be doing road or other general labouring work, nor be in domestic service - those jobs were also left to the poor people from across the border.

I was also intrigued by the number of English and American women I met, who had married locals and chosen to bring up their families there. This included a woman who chose to stay on after her partner died - she found it a comfortable place to live and work.

I could probably write a book about my time living there, but to just give a short answer to your question, based on what I saw in Tripoli and surrounding areas, no. Libya is not a third world country, Libya is not undeveloped (although parts may be considered underdeveloped). As for the third part of your question - who knows what it has been turned into over the last few months? I hope that the interference from foreign powers has not irretreviably destroyed the decades of peaceful living that Gadaffi had managed to maintain.
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Old 28.08.2011, 01:05
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Nice idea but a tornado can not carry a 15 ton bomb; for that you need a big US bomber
Surely Ghaddafi would have reinforced any bunker?
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Old 28.08.2011, 14:03
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1. My first impression of Libya was that there were a lot of horticultural farms - plenty of fresh food including dates, citrus and other fruits. Tripoli: no huge hypermarkets, but very many small family run shops. A beautiful coastline for swimming in the Med for 9 months of the year. Lots of cars, buses and taxis. Only the very poor rode bikes in Tripoli ( apart from me) generally the people from more southern neighbouring countries. The Libyans didn't seem to be doing road or other general labouring work, nor be in domestic service - those jobs were also left to the poor people from across the border.

I was also intrigued by the number of English and American women I met, who had married locals and chosen to bring up their families there. This included a woman who chose to stay on after her partner died - she found it a comfortable place to live and work.

I could probably write a book about my time living there, but to just give a short answer to your question, based on what I saw in Tripoli and surrounding areas, no. Libya is not a third world country, Libya is not undeveloped (although parts may be considered underdeveloped). As for the third part of your question - who knows what it has been turned into over the last few months? I hope that the interference from foreign powers has not irretreviably destroyed the decades of peaceful living that Gadaffi had managed to maintain.
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Old 29.08.2011, 20:47
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

From today's FT "The Algerian government said his (Gadaffis') wife, daughter, two of his sons and their children had crossed the border. Algiers did not say whether the head of the former regime was with his family."

Wonder if this had anything to do with the convoy of armoured Mercedes reported to have crossed into Algeria a couple of days ago; the convoy that the Algerian Govt. denied existed
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Old 29.08.2011, 21:29
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Ghaddafi is dead, killed in battle.
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Old 29.08.2011, 21:33
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hope they do a dna test
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Old 29.08.2011, 21:40
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Ghaddafi is dead, killed in battle.
This if true would be best for him, for Libya and for everybody
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Old 29.08.2011, 21:44
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Source?.....
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Old 29.08.2011, 21:45
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This if true would be best for him, for Libya and for everybody
I think they are talking about Khami; who has been reported dead more than once.
As Mark Twain said : "The reports of my death are greatly exaggerated"
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This if true would be best for him, for Libya and for everybody
Libyans still got a long way ahead.....they might have finished the war on Gaddafi but now will start the war for petroleum.....the west didn't do this whole efforts and spend all this money for the love of the Libyans.....interested to see the Chinese and Russians opinions
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Old 29.08.2011, 22:28
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hope they do a dna test
I wonder what the real situation is with Al-Megrahi.

Yes you're right, now they say it's Khamis, the source was CNN.
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Old 30.08.2011, 03:45
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This, I find interesting:

A few people after after answers following the overthrow of Ghaddafi.

The Iranians and Lebanese are looking for the founder of the Amal movement Musa al-Sadr. When you look at the al-Sadr family you find an influential Shiite family many of whom have been martyred/ assassinated.
As explained below, Musa's cousin is Muqtada; a person whom the US forces had to pay to keep control of Iraq. What I didn't know, is that Musa's neice (so therefore also related to Muqtada) is married to Khatami- former president of Iran and now part of the Green movement.


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Muqtada al-Sadr is of Iraqi and Lebanese ancestry. His great-grandfather is Ismail as-Sadr. Mohammed Sadeq al-Sadr, Muqtada al-Sadr's father, was a respected figure throughout the Shi'a Islamic world. He was murdered, along with two of his sons, allegedly by the government of Saddam Hussein. Muqtada's father-in-law was executed by the Iraqi authorities in 1980. Muqtada is a cousin of the disappeared Musa al-Sadr, the Iranian-Lebanese founder of the popular Amal Movement.[5]
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If Musa is still alive, imprisoned in Libya, this will have a major effect on Syria and Lebanon. I wonder how this will effect the change in political stance by Iran, Hizbollah, and Turkey towards Assad. I think that Musa must be dead, but then he will become a martyr and this could also effect change, because many believe that his assassination was ordered by Yasser Arafat.

Musa also has strong links to the Alawi and Asad.

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I wonder how this will all play out.
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

Gadaffi spotted in Hogwarts....

Looks like Gadaffi has escaped to Hollywood and started a new career...
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Gadaffi spotted in Hogwarts....

Looks like Gadaffi has escaped to Hollywood and started a new career...
Hogwarts is in Zimbabwe?
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

Khaddafi apparently is in a town far south of Tripoli. He now may try also to escape to Algeria. While the new power holders will try to catch him.
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Khaddafi apparently is in a town far south of Tripoli. He now may try also to escape to Algeria. While the new power holders will try to catch him.
So is this true? The last report that I posted form the Telegraph was out -of-date and anyway untrue. Now they say that they headed to Algeria

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...o-Algeria.html

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Old 31.08.2011, 13:25
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

If Gaddafi is safely holed up in a bunker, it is apparently Switzerland's fault

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