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You mean he never handed in the suspension. His words have about as much meaning as this guy



The diplomats kept working not because they didn't take their leader seriously but they simply didn't receive the order to cease activities until the arab league forced them to which means what the Secretary-General said is true. But believe what you want
What the Secretary-General said of course is true. But that Khaddafi SAID it is true as well. The picture above however reminds of the "two minor problems" Seif-al-Islam Kh. is to get "solved within two days" So much about to believe the Khaddafi clan ....
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This would make Qaddafi shaking in his SandalsYhere are some rumours that Quddafi was so upset ,he forgote to drink his Buttermilk last night
About " forgot to drink his Buttermilk" - no, you have to blame his Blonde Ukranian nurse with the personal Swiss mountains who obviously forgot to tuck him in & see to his needs.
From watching his tv performances she also forgot to give him his tablets.
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Old 27.02.2011, 21:08
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

From todays papers
Libyan authorities took a group of foreign journalists to Zawiyah on Sunday apparently to show that Gaddafi's forces still held the town. But once there, it was evident that it was the rebels who were in control.

The message the regime wants to get out - that things aren't as bad as reported - backfired spectacularly when foreign journalists saw with their owns eyes the city of Zawiyah clearly under control of the opposition.

The latest desertion to hit Muammar Gaddafi - his voluptuous Ukrainian nurse. Galyna Kolotnytska arrived in Kiev early Sunday on a Ukrainian defence ministry aircraft that evacuated 185 people from the country,

Kolotnytska, 38, was described in US diplomatic cables released by WikiLeaks in December as a "voluptuous blonde" that acted as one of the eccentric Libyan leader's closest confidantes.
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The North-East no tourism ? I regard places like al-Hoceima (and even Fez) as the Moroccan North-East. And Swiss travel-agencies DO regard al-Hoceima as "tourism".

That the King still holds unlimited supreme power in your country is obvious. Less obvious to outsiders is what powers parliament and prime-minister actually have. You might shed some light onto this aspect.

Yes, the toppling of the monarchy in Morocco would be truly historic
North-East is better known as "Oriental"; it is the name of the province. There is no tourism there. It is mainly a Berber-speaking *Rif clan* area with Oujda being Arab. This region has been deliberately ignored for the past 50 years as they have sought to set up their own republic back in the 20s-30s; They have a history of secession. In Morocco, the PM is appointed by the king and sometimes he is even selected from opposition coalitions to make it seem legitimate. What isn't obvious to foreigners is, the king controls 33% of MPs + 33% that's shared with the opposition, meaning that you cannot pass any law without him approving of it.
Al-Hoceima has had some of the most violent riots since the 20th of Feb. The north and South of Morocco aren't loyal to the Alaouite dynasty as they have hardly been under their control as opposed to the West and Center.
I assure you that you will see more riots in the coming days, and this king still has his chance to enact reforms while it's early or else he will have to abdicate the throne.
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Old 27.02.2011, 22:08
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Yes, the toppling of the monarchy in Morocco would be truly historic
And if that happens, I wonder what would be the stand of the new rulers in regards to Ceuta and Melilla.
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Old 27.02.2011, 22:39
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

[QUOTE=marton;1118578]About " forgot to drink his Buttermilk" - no, you have to blame his Blonde Ukranian nurse with the personal Swiss mountains who obviously forgot to tuck him in & see to his needs.
From watching his tv performances she also forgot to give him the Rat Poisoning]
Fixed that for you
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And if that happens, I wonder what would be the stand of the new rulers in regards to Ceuta and Melilla.
2 referendums would solve the problem...if the residents of the Spanish enclaves wish to remain part of Spain or even go independent then so be it.
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The UN security council has come out with a very strong statement (here is part of it from the FT)
"The United Nations Security Council has unanimously adopted a resolution that could put Muammar Gaddafi and his family in the dock of an international court for crimes against the Libyan people.
In a 15-0 vote, the council ordered all UN member states to freeze the assets of the Libyan leader, his daughter and four of his sons. They and another 10 key members of the regime were banned from travelling outside the country........"

Just illustrates what a weak & pathetic bunch are the UN human rights council; they are the ones who should be leading with strong statements.
If Gadaffi was such a bad leader, why did the UK, Switzerland and now the UN, not freeze the assets long ago. In fact, why did these countries ever accept the Gadaffi money in the first place. Why did they do business with Libya? Oh, yes, I remember; because it suited these countries for the access to oil. NOw, they have decided they don`t want to play ball any more; perhaps there will be more money to make by not being friends with Gadaffi afterall. SOunds like a playground of five year olds.

From what I saw in Libya, the average Libyan was not too badly off. I saw a lot of smiling faces, a lot of laughter in the streets and a lot of seasonal spending going on. The only disgruntled people I saw, were a minority of young adults, whos dissatisfaction seemed to come more from their feelings of envy at what they saw on television and perceived as being abetter life in Europe and the USA, based on stereotyped, fairytale images of how we live here. I felt safe walking or cycling the streets of Tripoli after dark - more than I do in parts of the UK or the USA. The expat and mixed families I knew, all liked being there - it was a lovely place for young children in particular, with lots of time spent at the beaches. It was also a country that had a lot of illegal Africans, because it was deemed to be a safer place, with a better chance of employment than the places further south that they had come from.

What a shame that it has all been spoilt by a minority of people and mass hysteria. Poor Libya.
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"voluptuous blonde" that acted as one of the eccentric Libyan leader's closest confidantes.
That's what kept Kadafi so healthy!! hehe
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Re: Libya - 17 Feb "Day of wrath"

There were a lot of Ukrainians working in Libya, especially in health related jobs. I used to have physio from one. A lot of Ukrainian women are tall, slender and not flat chested. Do you think Gadaffi should have specified that he wanted a flatchested nurse? Incidently, he also had female security guards - I was told that his reason for that was that he perceived them as being as capable, but more loyal than men. (dont know if was really the reason or not.)
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There were a lot of Ukrainians working in Libya, especially in health related jobs. I used to have physio from one. A lot of Ukrainian women are tall, slender and not flat chested. Do you think Gadaffi should have specified that he wanted a flatchested nurse? Incidently, he also had female security guards - I was told that his reason for that was that he perceived them as being as capable, but more loyal than men. (dont know if was really the reason or not.)
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If Gadaffi was such a bad leader, why did the UK, Switzerland and now the UN, not freeze the assets long ago. In fact, why did these countries ever accept the Gadaffi money in the first place. Why did they do business with Libya? Oh, yes, I remember; because it suited these countries for the access to oil. NOw, they have decided they don`t want to play ball any more; perhaps there will be more money to make by not being friends with Gadaffi afterall. SOunds like a playground of five year olds.

From what I saw in Libya, the average Libyan was not too badly off. I saw a lot of smiling faces, a lot of laughter in the streets and a lot of seasonal spending going on. The only disgruntled people I saw, were a minority of young adults, whos dissatisfaction seemed to come more from their feelings of envy at what they saw on television and perceived as being abetter life in Europe and the USA, based on stereotyped, fairytale images of how we live here. I felt safe walking or cycling the streets of Tripoli after dark - more than I do in parts of the UK or the USA. The expat and mixed families I knew, all liked being there - it was a lovely place for young children in particular, with lots of time spent at the beaches. It was also a country that had a lot of illegal Africans, because it was deemed to be a safer place, with a better chance of employment than the places further south that they had come from.

What a shame that it has all been spoilt by a minority of people and mass hysteria. Poor Libya.
They seem to be doing pretty well for a minority? I assume you meant the protestors & not the Gadaffi family?

You forgot to mention that it is now claimed the Libyan leader was personally responsible for downing of Pan Am 103 (Lockerbie) & that sort of activity is also now "spoilt" - one hopes.
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They seem to be doing pretty well for a minority? I assume you meant the protestors & not the Gadaffi family?

You forgot to mention that it is now claimed the Libyan leader was personally responsible for downing of Pan Am 103 (Lockerbie) & that sort of activity is also now "spoilt" - one hopes.
No, I didn`t forget to mention it. I just tried to avoid commenting on anything other than what I have seen.
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Don't forget: he made the trains run on time
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No, I didn`t forget to mention it. I just tried to avoid commenting on anything other than what I have seen.
Ostrich approach? Why not!
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Don't forget: he made the trains run on time
New timetable?
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Ostrich approach? Why not!
Worked for Michael moore in Iraq - happy smiling people under the benevolent Saddam.
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What a shame that it has all been spoilt by a minority of people and mass hysteria. Poor Libya.

He lost most of the major cities, the armed forces have defected to the opposition, his own ministers are telling him to step down. How is that a minority?
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He lost most of the major cities, the armed forces have defected to the opposition, his own ministers are telling him to step down. How is that a minority?
Well Bif posted "I just tried to avoid commenting on anything other than what I have seen."
So I guess he flew over there recently & saw?
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Fixed that for youI still waiting for your help on the UN vote for Israels independent in 1948,Dictatorship /Democracy
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