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Re: Countdown to WW3.

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However, the question is who will trigger it and who will be the contenders?

West vs East (USA vs China) because USA is in such debt to China?
or Christians vs Muslims?

it will be the red hats vs the blue hats
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West vs East (USA vs China) because USA is in such debt to China?
or Christians vs Muslims?
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/and...omment-1030300

It looks as if the Christian Crusade Mk10 may have to start and the Jews would be right behind
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Re: Countdown to WW3.

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World War 3 would actually solve a lot of problems for the world and especially world leaders:

1) The world is over populated...A war would get rid of a substantial amount of the population and solve this problem.
With sentiments like that, lets hope you're part of that
substantial amount...are you able to do it on your own?

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However, the question is who will trigger it and who will be the contenders?
Crass, inane comments? You vs me perhaps? Oh no, you said contenders. That'd rule you out.

Ho ho ho


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But anyway, oil prices would go up naturally if there is disruption in Supply i.e. any trouble in Middle East.
Right...exactly how much oil is being disrupted by the trouble in the middle east and north africa? Not enough to make a gnats todgers worth of difference. Especially when the Saudis have said they'll increase production to make up any shortfall.

Higher Oil prices mean more profits. And this is just another convenient excuse. Ever heard of Thomas Gold? Exactly. And why is that? Because a 'shortage' of oil means high prices; imagine if the world had huge oil reserves to last us another 500 or 1000 years? What would happen to the price of oil, and profits, then? Are oil companies likely to release this sort of information, or allow it to gain any credence or publicity? Of course not. Which is why you've never heard of him. But any Geolgist worth his salt has, and knows his theories stand up to just as much scrutiny as any other.
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http://www.zerohedge.com/article/and...omment-1030300

It looks as if the Christian Crusade Mk10 may have to start and the Jews would be right behind

I see your post right smack in there.


But what a depressing topics on that site.
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Re: Countdown to WW3.

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Higher Oil prices mean more profits. And this is just another convenient excuse. Ever heard of Thomas Gold? Exactly. And why is that? Because a 'shortage' of oil means high prices; imagine if the world had huge oil reserves to last us another 500 or 1000 years? What would happen to the price of oil, and profits, then? Are oil companies likely to release this sort of information, or allow it to gain any credence or publicity? Of course not. Which is why you've never heard of him. But any Geolgist worth his salt has, and knows his theories stand up to just as much scrutiny as any other.
What you are saying is right, with a long term point of view. But on the short term basis, oil being bought and sold on daily basis and refineries need to have crude supplies coming in on daily basis, it does effect the prices. Reason being on any given day, any disruption to expected oil supply would create a shortage and there would be many buyers (affected by disruption) who would have to source their crude supply from elsewhere.

Now they cannot wait for the oil to be dug up from the infinite sources, and receive it few weeks or months later.

Just bear in mind that Refineries and also Smelters need a constant supply of feedstock. Shutting down a Refinery or a Smelter temporarily and then firing it up again is very expensive (opportunity cost)! So like I said, on a short term or day to day basis, you can expect the metal and oil prices to shoot up.

But in the longer term yes, the price will balance out, depending on the time when enough crude can be drilled up and made available in the market.

Now back on topic... It has'nt really kicked off in Saudi Arabia? The Prince Saud al Faisal threatening to cut off fingers of anyone who would destabilise the Kingdom, is not much different attitude frm Ghaddafi, is it?

If the protests will gather pace, then Im sure he will not even hesitate to cut off heads! This is going to cause a major PR embarassment to the international community, criticising Libya but not Saudi Arabia for similar actions.

A lot of Emperors will be left without clothes.
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Re: Countdown to WW3.

Ok, what you're saying is that the world has only got a few days supply of oil in stocks? Not sure I believe that Oil industry production is finely tuned to Just in Time and sychronous methods. I just bet they've got huge stocks of Oil at all the various stages of production, for contingency reasons as much as general inefficiency. No chance that they'd let some disruption lose them money by actually curbing their abilty to sell oil. If what you said were true, much less oil would be sold during these 'disruptions', whereas actually it probably remains about the same, or even increases, as people percieve there to be a shortage and thefore stock up, at a time of rising prices, all making lots more lovely lolly for the oil barons.

I see nothing new or complex here, just the same super rich, ruthless oligarchs screwing the world, in every sense.
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The economies will collapse and paper money will become worthless, during the tribulation, when law and order has dissappeared and you're defending your home from the starving barbarian hordes, a stash of relatively useless malleable metal should be highest on your list for bargaining in the harsh radioactive wasteland markets that will follow.
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And that is not a conspiracy theory?
Actually I think it's a computer game. Fallout, for instrance. And a book, and a book of the film. The Road, for example. There's probably quite a few.

Science fiction has always had a funny way of predicting the future. Arthur C Clarke, Isaac Asimov, Ursula Andress to name but a few.

I've been chatting to a few mates of mine about this with Arabic and North African roots (Turkish, Tunisian and Iranian), and what really depressed me is that they all agree this will end up in a huge global conflict, as the west rushes to back one side or another in these civil wars for their own purposes, which basically boils down to making as much obscence amounts of money in the most obscene way as is obscenely possible.

I just hope Cormac McCarthy isn't another of those sci-fi oracles...
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Ok, what you're saying is that the world has only got a few days supply of oil in stocks?
I think you missed the point. If you are talking about Compulsory Oil Stocks (CSOs) thats a different thing.

What I am talking about is more like capacity, if you notice any oil field has a finite number of barrels of oil it can pump in a day. Same for refineries, they have a maximum and minimum numbers of barrels per day, to pump into the system. So within that comes the market for trading.

Currently the demand for oil in Europe is falling, hence some refineries around Europe are being shut down (as agreed by Oil Consortium) to keep the price up and making it viable for other refineries to break even.

It has not much to do with how much infinite oil is there under the earth's crust.
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... within that comes the market for trading.

Currently the demand for oil in Europe is falling, hence some refineries around Europe are being shut down (as agreed by Oil Consortium) to keep the price up and making it viable for other refineries to break even.
Viable for other refineries to break even? You're having a laugh. They were in business 5 and 10 years ago when the world oil price was a lot lower, were they not?

The S/T market for oil is just another way for rich people to get even richer off the back of everyone else by creating a service that isn't involved in wealth creation, just wealth redistribution. Oil would continue to flow to consumers, with or without these markets, onlythe price would be a lot more stable. Just like food, or any other commodity traders play with.

The whole thing's a complete farce
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Re: Countdown to WW3.

Interesting thread...my take on it is that western economies will weaken significantly over the next few decades with a slow recovery mainly due to the shifting balance of power which is shared between China, Brazil and India. China in itself is similar to WW2 Japan and has a serious hunger for resources. Overall, someone has to weaken and stay that way for decades because there cannot be prosperity in all parts of the world. A war against China at this moment would be devastating for both sides, but it would secure the future and the balance of power as it has been for the last 25 years for the west. But of couse who is going to launch this war? politicians wouldnt even the economic downturn run its natural course which would have done wonders for small businesses for the next 20 years instead of the currency and economic manipulation...
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