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Meanwhile some sicko who calls him self a comedian is now fired.. for all the damn right reasons it looks to me ! Fudging idiot !

Gilbert Gottfried fired by Aflac for offensive tsunami tweet

U.S. insurance companly Aflac fired Gilgeret Gottfried, best known as the voice of the duck in the now-famous Aflac commercials, for his tweets making fun of tsunami victims and the situation in Janpan following the massive quake.

"Gilbert's recent comments about the crisis in Japan were lacking in humor and certainly do not represent the thoughts and feelings of anyone at Aflac," Michael Zuna, a senior VP and chief marketing officer, said in a statement Monday.

"Aflac Japan -- and, by extension, Japan itself -- is part of the Aflac family, and there is no place for anything but compassion and concern during these difficult times."

Gottfried removed the offensive tweets, but too late, as they were picked up by a number of blogs, of note, and The Huffington Post.

Here are the Twitter tweets of concern:

I just split up with my girlfriend. But like the Japanese say, "They'll be another one floating by any minute now." Japan is really advanced. They don't go to the beach. The beach comes to them.

With three quarters business in Japan, Aflac is Japan's No. 1 insurer based on policies in force. On Friday, it donated 100 million yen -- a little more than 1.2 million dollars -- to the International Red Cross toward recovery efforts.

With the death toll reaching 3,000, it’s hard to believe that anyone would cracking jokes and the tsunami that Japan — but that’s exactly what comedian Gilbert Gottfried is doing.







People like him should be protected against themselves !
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Another element now to contend with is that if the radioactive cloud that seems to be there, is taken by the wind to either russia/china or australia, the effect on grain availability for food will be catastrophic
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Another element now to contend with is that if the radioactive cloud that seems to be there, is taken by the wind to either russia/china or australia, the effect on grain availability for food will be catastrophic
There is no doubt, that there will be side-effects from the escaped radiation. However, it depends on the type of radiation, strength, dissipation (half-life), etc. Of course there would be concernes about the residual radiation. However one can hope that as long as this is kept to a nominal level, all should be OK. For now, most of the radioactive marerial is (apparently) the "less serious" kind, at least thats what the "experts" are saying. If it does go into the atmosphere and over the ocean, most of it would be dissipated by rain, etc. Yes, it would end up in the air and water, however most of this type of radioactive material would have a nominal effect on living creatures. By most standards, this would mean probably not more that a few times more than what would normally be received by natural exposure.

One major issue is that the containment buildings have been comprimised. So far, it has not been stated that there have been any comprimise of the reactor vessels themselves, which contain the rods. So as long as they are intact, the radiation that is being released is not potentially lethal.

We will need to watch and see. Regardsless, they will be venting gasses for possibly weeks or months while everything cools down.

It is my opinion, however, that a bigger issue is going to be the fuel rods that have been "spent" or used up. These are typically contained within the reactor buildings in pools of water to contain the radioactive isotopes. They also have more concentrated, and different types of radioactive "waste" than "live" fuel rods. For example, "live" rods usually emit "alpha" radiation which (relatively speaking) is not "as lethal" as the "beta or gamma" radiation one thinks of with radioactive material. And the half-life from these materials can last thousands or 10s of thousands of years (109).

Also, due to the design of these reactors vs. say the "Chernobyl" reactors, a catostrophic event such as what happend there, although still possible, is of very low risk.

I beleive we all need to just watch and listen to see what is going on. It is the best we can do for now...

Note; I am not an expert in this matter, however I did study nuclear physics in a "former life". Please refer to more reliable sources for more information.
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Latest update, Reactor nr 4 caught fire , cooling pumps fail in reactor 5 and 6 - status in 5 and 6 is now critical..

Japanese and American reseachers have upgraded the Earthquake to a full 9 on the scale of Richter, as they found data back from the heart of the quake.
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There is no doubt, that there will be side-effects from the escaped radiation. However, it depends on the type of radiation, strength, dissipation (half-life), etc. Of course there would be concernes about the residual radiation. However one can hope that as long as this is kept to a nominal level, all should be OK. For now, most of the radioactive marerial is (apparently) the "less serious" kind, at least thats what the "experts" are saying. If it does go into the atmosphere and over the ocean, most of it would be dissipated by rain, etc. Yes, it would end up in the air and water, however most of this type of radioactive material would have a nominal effect on living creatures. By most standards, this would mean probably not more that a few times more than what would normally be received by natural exposure.

One major issue is that the containment buildings have been comprimised. So far, it has not been stated that there have been any comprimise of the reactor vessels themselves, which contain the rods. So as long as they are intact, the radiation that is being released is not potentially lethal.

We will need to watch and see. Regardsless, they will be venting gasses for possibly weeks or months while everything cools down.

It is my opinion, however, that a bigger issue is going to be the fuel rods that have been "spent" or used up. These are typically contained within the reactor buildings in pools of water to contain the radioactive isotopes. They also have more concentrated, and different types of radioactive "waste" than "live" fuel rods. For example, "live" rods usually emit "alpha" radiation which (relatively speaking) is not "as lethal" as the "beta or gamma" radiation one thinks of with radioactive material. And the half-life from these materials can last thousands or 10s of thousands of years (109).

Also, due to the design of these reactors vs. say the "Chernobyl" reactors, a catostrophic event such as what happend there, although still possible, is of very low risk.

I beleive we all need to just watch and listen to see what is going on. It is the best we can do for now...

Note; I am not an expert in this matter, however I did study nuclear physics in a "former life". Please refer to more reliable sources for more information.

Lets hope so, although phytosanitary requirements around the world call for extremely low levels of caesium 134 and 137 at max 300 bq/kilo (im not a nuclear scientist in fact i didnt even sit my exams ) but i know that carried by the weather means in finishes up in the grain, through rain, and that can block a countries exports of both grain and meat
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Lets hope so, although phytosanitary requirements around the world call for extremely low levels of caesium 134 and 137 at max 300 bq/kilo (im not a nuclear scientist in fact i didnt even sit my exams ) but i know that carried by the weather means in finishes up in the grain, through rain, and that can block a countries exports of both grain and meat
Correction its 300 bq each 134 and 137 caesium
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I heard on BBC Radio 4 that a no-fly zone has been imposed around the power station to help prevent the dispersal of radioactive contamination.

What they didn't mention is the effect that this will have on the rescue operations. I am sure that helicopters create significant turbulance. I don't know how this compares to a plane flying across at a higher altitude.

They said that the majority of the radiation from the explosions will remain below 500 ft so should not be widely dispersed. This compares with 30,000 ft from Chernobyl.
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This may sound callous, but it was a big reminder to me to keep my weight down. I have seen a lot of film of Japanese people who had to hurry and climb steep ascents like stairs to get out of harm's way. Also I have seen many being carried to safety. So compare the tragedy happening in the Japan to a region in the US where the majority are obese, with a growing incidence of morbid obesity Even if they attempt to climb they may block the path of others. Apart from that they can't be carried, the size of ambulances in the US has recently increased to accommodate bigger people.
The Japanese survived the H bomb attacks and fires, so they will survive this. Ater the floods and volcanic eruptions the land will be super fertile, it is just the radiation leak that I find worrying

And here we have an example of the differences in culture...

"Oh no, someone else may block my chance at safety!" is not a sentiment we are hearing of from Japanese people by the way.
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And we have YET another f**k wit, this time the wife of Malaysia Prime Minister saying that the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan is a lesson to them to build buildings that are eco-friendly and green.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-571892
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And we have YET another f**k wit, this time the wife of Malaysia Prime Minister saying that the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan is a lesson to them to build buildings that are eco-friendly and green.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-571892
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And we have YET another f**k wit, this time the wife of Malaysia Prime Minister saying that the earthquake and tsunami that struck Japan is a lesson to them to build buildings that are eco-friendly and green.

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-571892
I didn't realise that the Malaysian Prime Minister's missus was on "YAHOO CHAT".

It is insane what some people think, and their comments are so ridiculously thick.

Fortunately it is the comments that are coming from the Japanese themselves that highlight their true character and spirit.

Japan will pull through this !!!

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Unbelievable story.. they found a 4 month old baby alive and well under the rubble!!!

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-15114267.html
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And here we have an example of the differences in culture...

"Oh no, someone else may block my chance at safety!" is not a sentiment we are hearing of from Japanese people by the way.
I think that people are much the same everywhere, some will be heroes and some will do whatever it takes to survive. This has been recorded in disasters such as fires, aeroplane crashes etc, where panic sets in and people rush for the exits. The 911 towers was a little different as most people were not fully aware of the immediate danger.
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Japanese NHK news.

Brings tears to see such resilience in this man who was saved 3 days after the M9.0 earthquake being stuck on the 3rd floor in their home with his family and dog. His words... "No worries. I've been thru the Chilean Tsunami. Let's rebuild Japan again!" with a smile...

And while I type this, I am videoskyping with my mother and there is another earthquake and she needs to stop talking as the house is shaking a lot (and I see it!!) and I am hearing the condo alarm! Aahh.... it stopped....

The earthquake was 5.0 in Yokohama!! Epicenter in Shizuoka (central Japan) 6.0.... the earthquakes are heading south! Okay, now I am really worried, cell phones not working she says!
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Please correct me if I'm wrong....

USA Area = 9,826,675 km2 at 18% equates to 1,768,801.5 km2

Japan Area = 377,944 km2 at 16% equates to 60,471km2

So the arable land in the US is 4.68 x larger than the whole of Japan
I was surprised by the figures that I quoted I actually expected the US to have more arable land.
However when looking at arable land you have to consider the population that it has to feed.

the US population with Illegal immigrants is about 320 Million. the Japanese population ( with illegal immigrants) is about 126 million. A ratio of about 2.4:1 then you have to account fro the amount that the average US person consumes compared to the average Japanese. The average American consumes about 2.5 as much as the average Japanese. On top of that the Japanese eat a lot of fish, which don't need arable land. So if you calculate that all in, I think that takes care of your argument; even though it was an argument that i was trying to make.

I wonder who the nuclear heroes are- the ones taking risks trying to stabilize the reactors. I guess we will find out soon enough.

Will the container vessels hold?
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I think that people are much the same everywhere, some will be heroes
Spare a thought for the few brave workers who've stayed behind in the power station to try and get the problem under control.
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Spare a thought for the few brave workers who've stayed behind in the power station to try and get the problem under control.
I was thinking of them- I added it in my post. CNN is just now featuring them. As I mentioned before there is an American woman whose husband phoned from the reator after teh quake to let her know that he was OK. After that she lost contact and was desperately seeking him.

Japan has always donated generously to to other disasters around the world, but now donations here in the US are not coming in as quickly as they did for Haiti.
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donations here in the US are not coming in as quickly as they did for Haiti.
Is there a perception that Japan, as a "rich" country doesn't need the help as much?
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Japanese NHK news.

Brings tears to see such resilience in this man who was saved 3 days after the M9.0 earthquake being stuck on the 3rd floor in their home with his family and dog. His words... "No worries. I've been thru the Chilean Tsunami. Let's rebuild Japan again!" with a smile...
The Japanese have endured many a disaster throughout their history, they will recover from that one as well. The government's response is already miles better than what it was after the Hanshin earthquake in 1995.

As some people there say, 自身で、地震に、自信を.
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I find the sense of unity from Japanese people absolutely amazing. Do you hear news about looting etc over there right now? I don't think so. Instead people are giving what they can to each other, and they have very little right now.

I pray that this disaster will come to an end soon for them to start rebuilding their lives again, although I fear it may not be so soon for it to happen.
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