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Old 03.10.2015, 20:54
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

One Day After Warning Russia of Civilian Casualties, the U.S. Bombs a Hospital in Afghanistan
Death toll rises in suspected US airstrike on Afghan hospital

Can it be the US who bombed a hospital thinking they would kill IS troops?
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Old 04.10.2015, 10:18
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In short, al Nusra and the FSA are NOT allies
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The Western alliance are responding to a request from Iraq to protect them from the ISIS cross border terrorists based in Syria.
Consequently the Western actions are legitimate and explains the Western focus against ISIS.



https://www.google.ch/search?q=isis+...tUXRMDVsxEA%3D


ISIS is NOT based in Syria but in Iraq. While the USA on Israeli request never re-built the Iraqi Air Force, Mr Putin is doing exactly THIS. As soon as the Iraqi Air Force is built up to its old might and the Syrian Arab Republic Air Force is rebuilt Russia will have a Sandwich Position


Amazing is that the Americans now, after hesitating for Ages, are supplying the FSA as they should have done long ago.
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Old 04.10.2015, 20:43
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

Some newspapers are claiming Putin has allocated $60 Bn for the Syria exercise. If true would explain why E. Ukraine has gone quiet!

It is also claimed the Turkish military do not support Erdogan's idea of a Syrian "safe" zone which explains why this topic has gone quiet!! Brave of the military but Erdogan can not fight the military any more while he needs them to fight the PKK! It is also claimed the military are now refusing to enter civilian areas!!
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Old 06.10.2015, 10:13
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But Adm. Vladimir Komoyedov, head of the armed forces committee in Russia’s parliament, on Monday told Russian outlets that “volunteers” who had fought in Ukraine would likely be traveling to Syria in the near future. Most independent analysts and experts agree that the volunteers in Ukraine were in fact members of the Russian armed forces. Komoyedov asserted that such volunteers “cannot be stopped.”


CNN cited several unnamed U.S. officials as saying that Russia has “moved several ground combat weapons and troops” into western Syria, most likely to aid in the offensive against anti-Assad rebels. “The equipment includes several piece of artillery, as well as four BM-30 multiple-launch rocket systems — all considered to be highly accurate weapons. The latter is capable of rapid-fire rocket launches.”
If Russia does a few air-strikes for combat training and publicity stunts, and then pulls out, that would be a wise move. To send in ground troops and stay for the long-haul will become a burden. I don't think the US, Russia or any other country can really change the mess in the Middle East.

...and it looks like deploying "mercenaries" or "unmarked" Russian troops is becoming part of Putin's regular foreign policy...

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Old 06.10.2015, 10:45
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If Russia does a few air-strikes for combat training and publicity stunts, and then pulls out, that would be a wise move. To send in ground troops and stay for the long-haul will become a burden. I don't think the US, Russia or any other country can really change the mess in the Middle East.

...and it looks like deploying "mercenaries" or "unmarked" Russian troops is becoming part of Putin's regular foreign policy...

As I have posted several times, Russia does not have the resources to fight on two fronts. Entering Syria has meant some winding down of the "E. Ukraine activity", you see how quiet it has become in the last month.


I hope Poroshenko does not try to take advantage of this with an attack on the E. Ukraine rebels.


About "To send in ground troops and stay for the long-haul will become a burden". Indeed, the supply lines would be a nightmare as there is currently no land route for supplies.
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Old 06.10.2015, 14:27
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LOL, Russia is really milking the PR on their Syrian bombing campaign, a national Russian TV channel is promoting it in their weather reports "Perfect weather for bombing Syria"

That's how Putin keeps his popularity shored up at home: keep stringing along the Russian people, from the patriotic fervor of "bringing Crimea home", to "fighting the evil fascists" in Ukraine, now it's "partly cloudy and 100% chance of bombs" in Syria....anything to keep the people in Russia from realizing their standard of living is dropping, as their country is becoming more isolated. After a few months of bombing in Syria, the attention will shift to the next "soap opera", probably an Arctic Circle escapade....stay tuned....
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Old 06.10.2015, 14:36
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Turkey summoned Russia's ambassador for a second time after what the foreign ministry said was a second instance of a Russian plane violating Turkish airspace near the Syrian border.


Turkey first lodged its protest with the Russian ambassador and warned of consequences of any future incursions after a Russian jet crossed into Turkish territory on Saturday. The foreign ministry said the second airspace violation took place on Sunday.


Russia's defense ministry said Monday that incident was the result of bad weather conditions in the area, and that there was no reason to look for conspiracy theories.
http://www.voanews.com/content/turke...h/2993302.html

Wait, what? I thought weather was perfect according to Russia24 weather reports?

Russia seems to be getting on everyone's bad side lately, but p!ssing Turkey off is not a good idea in this situation...
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Old 06.10.2015, 15:11
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

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Old 06.10.2015, 15:14
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

About "Russia's defense ministry said Monday that incident was the result of bad weather conditions in the area" I view this as positive; if they had said "We fly where we want to - keep out of our way" then the situation would be very bad

About "pissing Turkey off"; looking at it from the other direction Turkey is running out of friends.

Turkey's geographic situation, is one that straddle both West and East. Erdogan had a vision of Turkey whose influence stretched from the Aegean to the Great Wall of China.

This has pretty well fallen apart. Obviously he no longer has good relations with Assad/Syria. Also his support for the Moslem Brotherhood destroyed his relations with Egypt after Sisi took over. The Gulf States are supporting Egypt which means they are not likely to have warm relationships with Turkey.

He broke off his good relations with Israel to score points in Moslem lands but now Israel has formed a good working relationship with Greece; which limits Erdogan's possibilities to form a relationship with Greece.

His attacks on the Kurds has caused difficulties to remain close to the regime in Iraq which has a large Kurdish population and anyway his Erdogan’s Sunni-oriented messages did not work well in Shi’ite-majority countries such as Iran and Iraq.

After being turned away from the EU and increasingly more isolated in the Middle East, Turkey has recently turned to Russia. However his strong criticism of Russia's Syria policy and these aircraft incidents have not helped.
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Old 06.10.2015, 15:20
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

Russia encroaching on Turkey's airspace twice is stepping on NATO's toes. Does Putin have a chip on his shoulders?
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Russia encroaching on Turkey's airspace twice is stepping on NATO's toes. Does Putin have a chip on his shoulders?
Knowing how he did the Cremean job, he seems to give a damn to the NATO.

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Old 07.10.2015, 13:54
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Russia encroaching on Turkey's airspace twice is stepping on NATO's toes. Does Putin have a chip on his shoulders?
Meanwhile Turkey bombs targets in Syria; comical scenario
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Old 07.10.2015, 14:10
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Meanwhile Turkey bombs targets in Syria; comical scenario
Why not, the weather is perfect for it


...in other news, Iraq may be asking Russia to bomb ISIS. Looks like Russia is getting sucked deeper into the quagmire...

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Russian airstrikes against the government's opponents in Syria have raised hopes in Baghdad that Russia could become an effective partner against the ultra-hardline group.

"We might be forced to ask Russia to launch airstrikes in Iraq soon," Hakim al-Zamili told Reuters.
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Old 07.10.2015, 14:25
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

This one is like a behind the back, no look pass for showmanship:
Russian missiles 'hit IS in Syria from Caspian

This is like the beginning of a drunken party, which may end up in a drunken brawl.
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Old 07.10.2015, 14:46
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This one is like a behind the back, no look pass for showmanship:
Russian missiles 'hit IS in Syria from Caspian

This is like the beginning of a drunken party, which may end up in a drunken brawl.
Indeed
Impressive, 26 cruise missiles that cost at least half a million US$ each!

I thought the Russian long range cruise missiles only have Ukrainian engines?
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Impressive, 26 cruise missiles that cost at least half a million US$ each!

I thought the Russian long range cruise missiles only have Ukrainian engines?
Looking at the map they must have flown the missiles over Iran and Iraq; very trusting of those countries considering this was the first time these missiles were used in a combat situation!!
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

A group of influential Sunni clerics are pressuring Saudi to defend the rebels against Russia; this will all end in tears....
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Old 07.10.2015, 23:09
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A group of influential Sunni clerics are pressuring Saudi to defend the rebels against Russia; this will all end in tears....
What can they possibly do, especially now they are are low on cash, and the their western contractors have gone independent? I suppose the usual M.O. of supporting guerilla attrition to draw them into a quagmire.

Russia would be foolish to maintain an oversized footprint for a prolonged period of time. They might just run sweep to degrade, then return to a small footprint base.
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What can they possibly do, especially now they are are low on cash, and the their western contractors have gone independent? I suppose the usual M.O. of supporting guerilla attrition to draw them into a quagmire.

Russia would be foolish to maintain an oversized footprint for a prolonged period of time. They might just run sweep to degrade, then return to a small footprint base.
Well they could deploy some of their 200+ Storm shadow cruise missiles. Or roll into South Syria with their Patriot missiles and use them as anti aircraft missiles; although their range is limited and these older models are not known for reliability.

Or hand out Stingers to the rebels!
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