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03.03.2020, 20:24
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | Nobody is rolling out the welcome mat during a pandemic. Sorry.
Merkel and her communist EU brethren had five years to fix this and have done nothing.
Maybe the Chinese would be interested in some refugees though. I’m pretty sure they could use some replacement factory workers. From what I see on YouTube, they have a few already built cities that need to be populated too.
Sounds like a win win win scenario. | | | | | Actually the picture is looking good.
Germany has since 2015 (when some 1.3 million refugees entered) enjoyed substantial economic growth, record low unemployment rates, as well as record federal budget surpluses.
Around one in two of the refugees who have arrived in Germany since 2013 have found steady employment within five years, a new study says.
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03.03.2020, 20:44
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | Actually the picture is looking good.
Germany has since 2015 (when some 1.3 million refugees entered) enjoyed substantial economic growth, record low unemployment rates, as well as record federal budget surpluses.
Around one in two of the refugees who have arrived in Germany since 2013 have found steady employment within five years, a new study says. | | | | | Strange, 'the picture is looking good' with the migrants yet the EU was paying Turkey billions to stop them from coming and is now being threatened with their arrival | This user would like to thank Full Circle for this useful post: | | 
03.03.2020, 21:36
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | Strange, 'the picture is looking good' with the migrants yet the EU was paying Turkey billions to stop them from coming and is now being threatened with their arrival  | | | | | Well in your own words | Quote: | |  | | | Or maybe there's some people who can simply see the undermining problems with the EU. | | | | | Or not?
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04.03.2020, 11:17
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | Well in your own words
Or not? | | | | | I don't really know what the out of context quote from another thread has to do with it
In any case, the EU seems to have rejected your hypothesis as they've now pledged millions to the Greeks to help keep the 'cash cows' out of Europe.
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04.03.2020, 13:42
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | Actually the picture is looking good.
Germany has since 2015 (when some 1.3 million refugees entered) enjoyed substantial economic growth, record low unemployment rates, as well as record federal budget surpluses. | | | | | German growth is below the EU average, and well below the US. | Quote: | |  | | | Around one in two of the refugees who have arrived in Germany since 2013 have found steady employment within five years, a new study says. | | | | | With one in two being in work, that means one half of the refugees need to generate enough taxes to feed the other half before you even start seeing a net benefit. Seeing many are in low paid jobs (and not the doctors and engineers that Merkel promised) that is not very likely, not even in high tax Germany.
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04.03.2020, 14:03
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | I don't really know what the out of context quote from another thread has to do with it 
In any case, the EU seems to have rejected your hypothesis as they've now pledged millions to the Greeks to help keep the 'cash cows' out of Europe. | | | | | There is no link between the EU's humanitarian payments to Turkey and Germany's success in integrating refugees?
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | With one in two being in work, that means one half of the refugees need to generate enough taxes to feed the other half before you even start seeing a net benefit. Seeing many are in low paid jobs (and not the doctors and engineers that Merkel promised) that is not very likely, not even in high tax Germany. | | | | | You are ignoring the fact that refugees, like the rest of the population, include women and children and I am sure that even the low paid can feed their families.
The German Medical Association states that the largest influx of foreign doctors in the past year are from Syria, with nearly 737 Syrian physicians entering the German workforce in 2017.
They also estimate that there are more than 3370 Syrian doctors working in Germany. However, this likely underestimates the true number as it omits those who have German citizenship or are completing their registration.
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04.03.2020, 14:34
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | There is no link between the EU's humanitarian payments to Turkey and Germany's success in integrating refugees? | | | | | There is a weak link between your post about refugees/immigrants and the war in Syria. Even if the war would end today the Iranians/Afghanis/Pakistanis would still try to reach Europe.
Please stay on topic.
The cynicism of Erdogan in Syria is like something out of 1984: a few years ago he was best friends with Assad & Hizbullah. today he is fighting them.
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04.03.2020, 14:40
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | The German Medical Association states that the largest influx of foreign doctors in the past year are from Syria, with nearly 737 Syrian physicians entering the German workforce in 2017. | | | | | Interesting fact.
The largest influx of doctors into Argentina in 1945 was from Germany.
I wonder what they had been doing during the war? | Quote: | |  | | | They also estimate that there are more than 3370 Syrian doctors working in Germany. However, this likely underestimates the true number as it omits those who have German citizenship or are completing their registration. | | | | | For more than a million refugees, that is still a third of a percent. So Merkel's statement about doctors and engineers remains an exaggeration.
Probably much less than a third of a percent even, if we consider that many of the doctors didn't come with the refugee stream but came with work visas and a nice reference letter from Assad.
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04.03.2020, 15:26
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | There is a weak link between your post about refugees/immigrants and the war in Syria. Even if the war would end today the Iranians/Afghanis/Pakistanis would still try to reach Europe.
Please stay on topic.
The cynicism of Erdogan in Syria is like something out of 1984: a few years ago he was best friends with Assad & Hizbullah. today he is fighting them. | | | | | If you believe refugees are off-topic then you need to complain to whoever merged the "The Europeans not extending any welcome to Syrians" thread with this one!
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So, just after Macron has just called for a thaw between EU and Russia, any new EU sanctions on Russia aren't there, despite Russia's war crimes there? BTW: Germany investments in Russia in 2019 were record high.
Turkey at least tolerated ISIS oil exports to support the war against Assad - where are the sanctions on Turkey? Ah well.
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | There is no link between the EU's humanitarian payments to Turkey and Germany's success in integrating refugees? | | | | | The German Interior Minister tweeted that Germany doesn't want them! So much for the successful integration https://mobile.twitter.com/BMI_Bund/...11949915381767 | 
04.03.2020, 17:13
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | | | | | | This tweet does not mention integration
Anyway, he is a strange character. Yesterday German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer declined a friendly handshake with Chancellor Angela Merkel on the grounds he was worried about coronavirus.
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| | Re: The Europeans not extending any welcome to Syrians | Quote: | |  | | | Stop spreading misinformation! Anyone can enter Greece through the legal way. There are 4 Greek consulates and an embassy in Turkey. Anyone is welcome to apply for asylum.
Attacking the border with rocks and teargas (provided by Turkish Gendarmerie)is a no no. | | | | | Still, Greece is the strongest opponent of EU sanctions on Russia.
Must be a hard choice - favouring Russia, the enemy of Greece enemy (Turkey) vs the refugees influx?
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over
Dragging the thread back on topic:
Syria is very likely to suffer greatly from Corona: With many Iranians moving in and out Syria and the terrible state of the health system corona will spread rapidly.
Assad's response: deny and conceal.
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12.03.2020, 13:02
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| | Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over | Quote: | |  | | | This tweet does not mention integration 
Anyway, he is a strange character. Yesterday German Interior Minister Horst Seehofer declined a friendly handshake with Chancellor Angela Merkel on the grounds he was worried about coronavirus. | | | | | He is a strange character in many respects. I gather a lot of people like him though.
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