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They have been trying the "Tsunami" your so looking forward to, since 48!

In fact even before that.
See The Riots http://www.campsci.com/iguide/chevron.htm

Was the latter also justified due to your "Israeli Oppression"?
Be careful - you might be banned for actually posting facts.

It's very possible that the "arab-revolt-tsunami" will spill into Israel: Real refugees fleeing Real violence and discrimination. Boats with refugees are already leaving "liberated" Tunisia and Libya, it can happen in Syria & Egypt as well.
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Do I understand u correctly that EF is anti Israel?
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It's very possible that the "arab-revolt-tsunami" will spill into Israel: Real refugees fleeing Real violence and discrimination. Boats with refugees are already leaving "liberated" Tunisia and Libya, it can happen in Syria & Egypt as well.
Who / what, is not "Real"?
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It's very possible that the "arab-revolt-tsunami" will spill into Israel:

This, noone can dispute.
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Old 16.05.2011, 15:11
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Who / what, is not "Real"?
The bussed in protestors on the Israel-Syria border are not real refugees. they did not flee any war (yet).

As for the EF being "Anti Israel" - You can make your decision by the green Vs red blobbies for Pro and Anti Israel posters.
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Old 16.05.2011, 15:12
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Be careful - you might be banned for actually posting facts.

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Would you like an opportunity to discuss this? Remember me posting certain facts about Israel and being suspended?
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Old 16.05.2011, 15:36
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The bussed in protestors on the Israel-Syria border are not real refugees. they did not flee any war (yet).
As for the EF being "Anti Israel" - You can make your decision by the green Vs red blobbies for Pro and Anti Israel posters.
I guess posting more "useful" info in other threads than the circling israel-palestine discussion has a bigger influence on the blobbies issue (although I usually do like how you post what you post)...uh wait, this isn't the israel-palestine thread sorry OT, carry on
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Old 16.05.2011, 15:42
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Egyptian border ?
Reminds me, now the Egyptians are talking about taking down the fence on their side.
If I were a Palestinian & I had a choice between trying to pass a heavily guarded fence on one side or going off to the other side into Egypt & the opportunity of a new life then I know which way I would go.....

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Old 16.05.2011, 15:52
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[QUOTE=Custodian;1197986]Do I understand u correctly that cannut is anti Israeli occupation policy ?/QUOTE]
Fixed that for younow you can call me anti Semitic,if you want to
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Old 16.05.2011, 16:09
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Reminds me, now the Egyptians are talking about taking down the fence on their side.
If I were a Palestinian & I had a choice between trying to pass a heavily guarded fence on one side or going off to the other side into Egypt & the opportunity of a new life then I know which way I would go.....

Egypt GDP per capita: 2270.
Syria GDP per capita: 2474.
Gaza GDP per capita: 2900.
Israel GDP per capita: 26256.
Switzerland GDP per capita: 63629.

Which way would you go ?
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Old 16.05.2011, 16:09
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Oh it's so nice to have the time to post now that I am free of exams. I got commended for my work, a private meeting with the president of the college etc., but now school's out for the summer and I can post stuff like this:

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"What we saw today was the promo for what we might see in September on the day the United Nations declares a state: Thousands of Palestinians marching toward Israeli checkpoints, Israeli settlements and the fence along the West Bank and Gaza Palestinians coming with their bare hands to demonstrate," a senior Israeli officer tells TIME. "This is a huge problem. Well have to study what happened today to do better."
Read more: http://www.time.com/time/world/artic...#ixzz1MWXoJOec

Scary stuff- for zionists!

However, on the other side Syrians fleeing into Lebanon, that could tip things, but perhaps not to the benefit of zionism. Popular movements start and others try to hijack them for their own political ends. If you want to blame someone- blame Facebook- according to TIME magazine.

Now what happened to the " posting facts and getting banned discussion?" Did I kill that one? OOPs my bad!
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Old 16.05.2011, 16:26
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Egypt GDP per capita: 2270.
Syria GDP per capita: 2474.
Gaza GDP per capita: 2900.
Israel GDP per capita: 26256.
Switzerland GDP per capita: 63629.

Which way would you go ?
Don't worry slowly the Arab world will stop the leaks and corruption that feed Israel with cheap gas, oil and water on which its economy so desperately relies.

http://www.allvoices.com/contributed...al-with-israel

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Old 16.05.2011, 23:25
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Thank you for the ad-hominem(s), now how is that related to the situation in Syria ?
it is related to the situation in Syria as Dr Assad is playing for time, and tries to "out-sit" the problem. He since taking over the job fairly often has gambled and up to now, sometimes rather surprisingly, WON !

the shrewd man of course knows that even if he politically survives the present crisis, the matter cannot be solved this way in the longer term. He for sure realizes that to reduce the Ba'ath Party from the monopolistic state party to simply a leading one in a multi-parties system is what will be necessary.
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it is related to the situation in Syria as Dr Assad is playing for time, and tries to "out-sit" the problem. He since taking over the job fairly often has gambled and up to now, sometimes rather surprisingly, WON !

the shrewd man of course knows that even if he politically survives the present crisis, the matter cannot be solved this way in the longer term. He for sure realizes that to reduce the Ba'ath Party from the monopolistic state party to simply a leading one in a multi-parties system is what will be necessary.
Lets hope he gets the opportunity and uses it.
Once his neighbor sees a stable democracy, they will retun "The Heights" which is his & his peoples desire.
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Old 17.05.2011, 13:01
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Re: Syria - It ain't over till it's over

Assad is a dictator. He will never "reduce the Ba'ath Party from the monopolistic state party to simply a leading one in a multi-parties system" because it will reduce him to a prisoner/corpse, as happened to many of his predecessors.

Sadly the day when an Arab country have a functioning "Multi party" system is not yet upon us.
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Assad is a dictator. He will never "reduce the Ba'ath Party from the monopolistic state party to simply a leading one in a multi-parties system" because it will reduce him to a prisoner/corpse, as happened to many of his predecessors.

Sadly the day when an Arab country have a functioning "Multi party" system is not yet upon us.
Just thought that while he was in Londonium sipping his tea & mixing with the locals, he might have been influenced..............
Wishful thinking, I suppose!
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Just thought that while he was in Londonium sipping his tea & mixing with the locals, he might have been influenced..............
Wishful thinking, I suppose!
Assad Jr and Gaddafi Jr studied in London - looks like the learned the same lessons even though they attended different schools.

Hussein Jr & Mubarak Jr also spent some time in Albion (King Abdullah's mom is English). Plenty of Gulf states sent the rulers sons (not daughters, though) to sample English food.

I think we stumbled upon the real reason for sad state of affairs in the middle east - it's not the Beards, but English teachers who are to blame.
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Assad is a dictator. He will never "reduce the Ba'ath Party from the monopolistic state party to simply a leading one in a multi-parties system" because it will reduce him to a prisoner/corpse, as happened to many of his predecessors.

Sadly the day when an Arab country have a functioning "Multi party" system is not yet upon us.

Lebanon already HAS a functioning multi-parties system. And Algeria in recent years has established a functioning multi-parties system as well. I hope that also Tunisia and Egypt will get forward on the right road. Iraq since the last parliamentary elections can indeed be regarded as a "working democracy".
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Just thought that while he was in Londonium sipping his tea & mixing with the locals, he might have been influenced..............
Wishful thinking, I suppose!
no no, he WAS influenced by them, his wife among them ! After taking over, he
- allowed the internet into Syria
- allowed private computers
- re-privatized a good part of the economy
- liberalized general life in many aspects
BUT
the shortcoming simply was political rule. And here come, as Pashosh above mentioned, THE hick-ups
- if a dictator starts to reduce his power he is in danger to get toppled
- it the Allawites (incl the Assad clan) reduce their rule over the military, people might conclude that there no longer is a need to have a small minority in political power
- opposition parties might point to these matters accordingly
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- the quadratisation of the circle
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Assad Jr and Gaddafi Jr studied in London - looks like the learned the same lessons even though they attended different schools.

Hussein Jr & Mubarak Jr also spent some time in Albion (King Abdullah's mom is English). Plenty of Gulf states sent the rulers sons (not daughters, though) to sample English food.

I think we stumbled upon the real reason for sad state of affairs in the middle east - it's not the Beards, but English teachers who are to blame.
> Mrs Mubarak senior is Welsh
> and, well, you never know with English-Teachers
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