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Radiation found in milk in the USA

Since they have detected radiation in the milk in the USA, I would say that's its probable that it has entered the milk here in Switzerland too. I know that the levels are miniscule and not something to be alarmed about currently, but is radiation like DDT that when it enters the food chain that it grows higher in concentration the higher up the food chain it goes? So, will the levels go up over time?

Also, where do you get your news in English about things affecting Switzerland? I know more about what's happening in the States and Canada than about here. I get vague information from reading the French newspapers due to my so-so level of French. I would like to know one day if the local milk starts being a concern.
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Since they have detected radiation in the milk in the USA, I would say that's its probable that it has entered the milk here in Switzerland too. I know that the levels are miniscule and not something to be alarmed about currently, but is radiation like DDT that when it enters the food chain that it grows higher in concentration the higher up the food chain it goes? So, will the levels go up over time?

Also, where do you get your news in English about things affecting Switzerland? I know more about what's happening in the States and Canada than about here. I get vague information from reading the French newspapers due to my so-so level of French. I would like to know one day if the local milk starts being a concern.
Any links about that?
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Since they have detected radiation in the milk in the USA, I would say that's its probable that it has entered the milk here in Switzerland too. I know that the levels are miniscule and not something to be alarmed about currently, but is radiation like DDT that when it enters the food chain that it grows higher in concentration the higher up the food chain it goes? So, will the levels go up over time?

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No, radiation levels go down over time -radioactive substances have a half-life and the level of radioactivity halves over the time period of the half life.

It is true that radioactive iodine gets concentrated in the thyroid gland but only because it collects there. Luckily, it has a low half life so isn't a problem after a few days.

Nothing to worry about as the levels are so small anyway.

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It's a radioactive isotope of iodine with a half-life of 8 days so no, the levels won't build-up over time, rather half of any given amount will be non-radioactive in 8 days.

Levels detected are 5,000 times less than the currently-set "intervention level".

More here.
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OMG. We're all gonna die.

If you're that worried about it, buy a geiger counter: http://www.amazon.co.uk/s/?ie=UTF8&k...l_4xo39j14gq_e
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OMG. We're all gonna die.

If you're that worried about it, buy a geiger counter
But don't try to find one in Germany, they've sold out.
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But don't try to find one in Germany, they've sold out.
All bought up by North Americans, no doubt.
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Also, where do you get your news in English about things affecting Switzerland? I know more about what's happening in the States and Canada than about here.
Try these;
http://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/index.html

http://worldradio.ch/index.shtml
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Re: Radiation found in milk in the USA

Concerning radiation in Switzerland, the risky thing is this: http://www.bag.admin.ch/themen/strah...x.html?lang=en
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Since they have detected radiation in the milk in the USA, I would say that's its probable that it has entered the milk here in Switzerland too. I know that the levels are miniscule and not something to be alarmed about currently, but is radiation like DDT that when it enters the food chain that it grows higher in concentration the higher up the food chain it goes? So, will the levels go up over time?

Also, where do you get your news in English about things affecting Switzerland? I know more about what's happening in the States and Canada than about here. I get vague information from reading the French newspapers due to my so-so level of French. I would like to know one day if the local milk starts being a concern.
Let the fire burn, let the paranoia spread!
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Since they have detected radiation in the milk in the USA, I would say that's its probable that it has entered the milk here in Switzerland too.
Not necessarily - If I look at Weejeem's link, then a tiny amount of radiation has been found in milk in the State of Washington, which borders the Pacific. Wind blowing eastwards from Japan has obviously reached the US West Coast.

The distance those same particles would have to travel to reach Switzerland (either in an easterly or westerly direction, prolly doesn't make much difference) virtually obviates the possibility of it reaching Switzerland in any considerable quantities (as opposed to Tchernobyl, which was, radiation-wise, virtually "next door"). Sooo.... nothing to worry about
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Not necessarily - If I look at Weejeem's link, then a tiny amount of radiation has been found in milk in the State of Washington, which borders the Pacific. Wind blowing eastwards from Japan has obviously reached the US West Coast.

The distance those same particles would have to travel to reach Switzerland (either in an easterly or westerly direction, prolly doesn't make much difference) virtually obviates the possibility of it reaching Switzerland in any considerable quantities (as opposed to Tchernobyl, which was, radiation-wise, virtually "next door"). Sooo.... nothing to worry about
I believe people have lost the ability to assess risk objectively, this is blatantly no threat to Switzerland, usual media hyping it up stoking the fires of paranoia.

Radiation is a natural occurance it appears everywhere, but you don't see people jumping up and down about Radon gas in places like Cornwall.
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If you're that worried about it, buy a geiger counter:
Available at all good violin shops.
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I believe people have lost the ability to assess risk objectively, this is blatantly no threat to Switzerland, usual media hyping it up stoking the fires of paranoia.
I think in the field of psychology, it's called the "Daily Mail effect".
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I believe people have lost the ability to assess risk objectively, this is blatantly no threat to Switzerland, usual media hyping it up stoking the fires of paranoia.

Radiation is a natural occurance it appears everywhere, but you don't see people jumping up and down about Radon gas in places like Cornwall.
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Oi! Shut it! You're going to damage my investment in companies manufacturing geiger counters...

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Apparently the milk in question came from one of those Hogg's Bison thingies

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The distance those same particles would have to travel to reach Switzerland (either in an easterly or westerly direction, prolly doesn't make much difference) virtually obviates the possibility of it reaching Switzerland in any considerable quantities (as opposed to Tchernobyl, which was, radiation-wise, virtually "next door"). Sooo.... nothing to worry about
Your attempt to sound urbane and erudite is obviated by your lazy use of the word 'probably'.
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Awww, don't spoil it with facts - everyone loves a good panic over unsubstantiated hearsay...
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I think in the field of psychology, it's called the "Daily Moron/Focks News effect".
I fixed that for you.
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Apparently the milk in question came from one of those Hogg's Bison thingies

OMG! You sure that isn't a Chernobyl cow?
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