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Old 02.05.2011, 22:14
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I think what Cash was saying was that he believes Osama was already dead before this report, hence no tapes for a good while.
Oh, well fair enough then. Not the conspiracy of the century even if it is true. They might have just found his dead body or proof of his death. Same thing to me.
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I think what Cash was saying was that he believes Osama was already dead before this report, hence no tapes for a good while.
Exactly Rich Dog !!
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:22
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

hmm..makes you think about the distances they would need to travel from Pakistan to the base in Afganistan and than to the sea. is that even possible in the 3-6 hours?
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:24
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I am under the impression that Bin-Laden was dead a long time ago and that Obama is certain now so is now possibly making up that they have just killed him.

Ask yourself what you would do if you were in Obama's shoes.

It just doesn't stack up that the body of Bin-Laden was removed from the compound; transported to Afganistan and then buried at sea.
Plus DNA testing. I thought it takes more than 24hours. Maybe a DNA expert here could help.
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:28
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

Osama - worlds most wanted terrorist killed and buried at sea.
Sadam Hussein - tyrant, murderer, also wanted by the most influential countries in the world, publicly executed and ditched in a hole.
They had Sadam that's why they proved to the world evidence of his execution and allowed close up recording.
Now, why two criminals of almost same level, were treated differently? Both of them were claiming to be moslems, why one gets treated (his remains at least) according to islam tradition and the other doesn't?
And, as far as I know, it is not in islamic tradition to bury the dead at sea.
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Plus DNA testing. I thought it takes more than 24hours. Maybe a DNA expert here could help.
I think most reports have said that the DNA test results will be known in a few days' time.
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:34
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Plus DNA testing. I thought it takes more than 24hours. Maybe a DNA expert here could help.
I think that it takes at least 3 days.
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And, as far as I know, it is not in islamic tradition to bury the dead at sea.
This point has already been debated earlier in the thread.
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:45
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Osama - worlds most wanted terrorist killed and buried at sea.
Sadam Hussein - tyrant, murderer, also wanted by the most influential countries in the world, publicly executed and ditched in a hole.
They had Sadam that's why they proved to the world evidence of his execution and allowed close up recording.
Now, why two criminals of almost same level, were treated differently? Both of them were claiming to be moslems, why one gets treated (his remains at least) according to islam tradition and the other doesn't?
And, as far as I know, it is not in islamic tradition to bury the dead at sea.
Saddam was dealt with by the Iraqi interim government.
Osama by the US.

Consequently they were treated differently.
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:47
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hmm..makes you think about the distances they would need to travel from Pakistan to the base in Afganistan and than to the sea. is that even possible in the 3-6 hours?
1 to 2 hours in a helicopter to the base in Afganistan then 30 minutes in a military jet to the aircraft carrier.
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1 to 2 hours in a helicopter to the base in Afganistan then 30 minutes in a military jet to the aircraft carrier.
And thrown (buried) at sea according to islamic tradition by non-moslems? It makes you think, no?
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Old 02.05.2011, 22:56
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I think that it takes at least 3 days.
Or about 8 minutes in CSI Las Vegas. Rather a moot point now that the sharks have been fed.
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:00
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It just doesn't stack up that the body of Bin-Laden was removed from the compound; transported to Afganistan and then buried at sea.
US actions in the so called war on terror rarely make much sense. Remember how they hanged Saddam in the middle of the night, after a secret trial by the Iraqis.. which made no sense considering the US was in control of the country. And then one of the executioners taunted Saddam and someone shot a video on a cellphone and it circulated on the web...

In this case, since they were operating inside another sovereign territory, it seemed logical that they would hand over the body to Pakistan to deal with.

Oh well... someday Wikileaks will reveal all.
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

I have just read a report which states that Obama refused to bomb the 'lair' back in March, for fear of destroying DNA evidence that would prove irrefutably that OBL was dead.
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:02
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Oh well... someday Wikileaks will reveal all.
They'll certainly "reveal" something...
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:22
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And thrown (buried) at sea according to islamic tradition by non-moslems? It makes you think, no?
"by non-moslems" - where did you get this information?

I quote "He was buried at sea after a Muslim funeral on board an aircraft carrier in the north Arabian Sea" Pentagon officials said.

DNA tests in 2 to 4 hours; see
http://pubs.acs.org/doi/full/10.1021/ac101891k
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

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Also worth remembering is that the US were offered Bin Laden back in 2001 if they could provide proof of his guilt to which Bush famously replied "There's no need to discuss innocence or guilt. We know he's guilty".
Any source for this? It certainly not anywhere close to what I've seen or read.
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Any source for this? It certainly not anywhere close to what I've seen or read.
According to CNN, marines went into the room where he was and after recognizing facially that he was Osama, they killed him.
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Old 02.05.2011, 23:44
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According to CNN, marines went into the room where he was and after recognizing facially that he was Osama, they killed him.
That's a far way from dragging him out and shooting him in the head after all the other shooting was over. No mention of whether he had a gun in his hands, etc.
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