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Old 03.05.2011, 13:42
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

I personally don't understand why it took us ( yes, I am American ) nearly 10 years to find / kill him...
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his address is quite clearly marked on Google maps..

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=abbott...,0.002411&z=19
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Let's say it again,

The most logical reason for throwing the body into the sea (from a muslim point of view) is to assure his followers do not try to find him and transform it into a Holly Graal Quest. Plus, if body is found, make it become a Saint and an Holly place to go and pray on.

To burry to body into 24 hours is a muslim tradition. I believe they had an Imam who did the ceremony. Why should we assume the most negative attitude and/or reaction from the US Governement? I prefer to believe they have enough decency to respect people's belief. And I also believe the US Army has plenty of muslim into their troop.
Which followers? Don't you know islamic doctrine? If you praise anything BUT God you are committing blasphemy? And how come his followers (who are not that much) ready to die for God and Koran would commit an act which is against their Holy Scriptures?
And according to islamic tradition there is no deadline when the body should be buried, they should bury their dead as soon as they can and not in 24 hours.
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I personally don't understand why it took us ( yes, I am American ) nearly 10 years to find / kill him...
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his address is quite clearly marked on Google maps..

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=abbott...,0.002411&z=19
Govt. contract limited them to using Bing?
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Citations please for your assertions.
Watch CNN, that was said by their special correspondent from the Pentagon.
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Old 03.05.2011, 14:02
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The border between "justice has been done" and "revenge" is very thin; it's up to the US officials to play transparency.
I agree with you.

And I don't disagree that all there was on TV were psyched up faces of some youngsters. To celebrate death is never good (unless it is a syphilitic bastard who has killed millions and occupied your land for decades , that something a lot more tangible that theoretical disputes over human dignity that some manifest here, some dictators cripled millions of lives and millions of families)...

But honestly, what it seemed to me, was just the poor choice of what media portrayed. Knowing my friends and our families there, it was not just a humongous crazy party, Mardigras style. People I know there werent' running around and screaming with joy.

Media picked this again, since it is popular to scandalize US in any way possible and somewhat discredit. I honor soldiers who go and risks their necks in Afganistan and other places. I also happened to teach Czech high profile UN soldiers English so they survive there with their Chemical warfare unit. And I respect them. I think to judge the entire nation based on some screaming kids who poorly manifest their patriotic feelings, is myopic. Kids will grow up, maybe they will quit being hysterical, we won't influence it though, since we are not even there to fix it.

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I personally don't understand why it took us ( yes, I am American ) nearly 10 years to find / kill him...
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Hey, welcome back! It took OBL to drag you out of hiding?
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Hey, welcome back! It took OBL to drag you out of hiding?
yes , thanks.. and hey what's this... you've had a lobotomy during my absence?
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Old 03.05.2011, 14:07
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yes , thanks.. and hey what's this... you've had a lobotomy during my absence?
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To your corner! hahaha...Cmon, we need nice, big and cheerfull membership in our neck of the woods, so no edginess. So few of us here in GE area, sniff sniff.

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Watch CNN, that was said by their special correspondent from the Pentagon.
can't find a reference to that. your comment still stands as heresay.
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To celebrate death is never good (unless it is a syphilitic bastard who has killed millions and occupied your land for decades , that something a lot more tangible that theoretical disputes over human dignity that some manifest here, some dictators cripled millions of lives and millions of families)...
Why do we forget the history? The language we are speaking is english and not american neither australian or any other english speaking countries. That means that in the land where we are dwelling now and calling ours, actually was occupied by our ancestors
So, I ask you, should we celebrate the death of Amerigo Vespucci or James Cook?
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can't find a reference to that. your comment still stands as heresay.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...an-shield.html

Is now all good? Is it still hearsay?
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Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.

Re.Celebrating SOB /OBL`s dead is far better then mourning victims of a terror attack.
Re. Who gives the USA the right to go into Pakistan,3497 terror victims less the terrorists
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...an-shield.html

Is now all good? Is it still hearsay?
It's not CNN, it's not stating a pentagon spokesman. It quotes Politico website .

Oddly enough John Brennan (using his own source) clearly stated that they could have taken him alive, and that he was armed.


so no, not good enough.
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Old 03.05.2011, 14:31
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Why do we forget the history? The language we are speaking is english and not american neither australian or any other english speaking countries. That means that in the land where we are dwelling now and calling ours, actually was occupied by our ancestors
You mean here? Well, all territory has been occupied one way or another, innit.

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So, I ask you, should we celebrate the death of Amerigo Vespucci or James Cook?
The minute they run into some tall scyscrapers and kill thousands, I am sure some miniscule percentage of the population will actually celebrate their death and TVs will focus on it, for the lack of better judgment. The rest of the population wil most probably also feel relieved but will be careful not to let others know, since the problem itsels is nowhere near the end.
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Why do we forget the history? The language we are speaking is english and not american neither australian or any other english speaking countries. That means that in the land where we are dwelling now and calling ours, actually was occupied by our ancestors
So, I ask you, should we celebrate the death of Amerigo Vespucci or James Cook?
Actually, I don't think America was named after Vespucci, other wise it would be called Vespuccia.
Right, that gives me an idea, I'm going to write an entire alternate history novel based in the United States of Vespuccia. With dragons, werewolves and everything, like.
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Actually, I don't think America was named after Vespucci, other wise it would be called Vespuccia.
Right, that gives me an idea, I'm going to write an entire alternate history novel based in the United States of Vespuccia. With dragons, werewolves and everything, like.
as long as it doesn't have sparkling vampires, I'll read it.
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as long as it doesn't have sparkling vampires, I'll read it.

Damn....

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Actually, I don't think America was named after Vespucci, other wise it would be called Vespuccia.
Right, that gives me an idea, I'm going to write an entire alternate history novel based in the United States of Vespuccia. With dragons, werewolves and everything, like.
Paddy... you been into the cooking sherry ( again ) while I was away?

ok... first off... dudes name was "Amerigo Vespucci" and you know how dem Eye'talians is.. they is not so good on the pronouncing of stuff and dey got Amerigo muddled up like.

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It's not CNN, it's not stating a pentagon spokesman. It quotes Politico website .

Oddly enough John Brennan (using his own source) clearly stated that they could have taken him alive, and that he was armed.


so no, not good enough.
Watch TV and read some newspapers, it will help you broaden your horizon
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Why do we forget the history? The language we are speaking is english and not american neither australian or any other english speaking countries. That means that in the land where we are dwelling now and calling ours, actually was occupied by our ancestors
So, I ask you, should we celebrate the death of Amerigo Vespucci or James Cook?
Well, I think we've been fairly patient with your general prattling and specific murdering of grammar norms. But I'm done. English, Australian, and American should be capitalized. It's "either - or" or "neither - nor" but never "either - nor." That's the grammar.

Now the history. Precisely where on the planet do you think the exact same original people still live? I'm just curious. As far as I know there is not a single place that has not been subject to migration and conquest at some time in the past. So I'm assuming that you are generalizing on the basis of recency? If so, what time period do you use as your cut off? Are you choosing the 15th or 16th century for a very good reason or just because it allows you to spout whatever nonsense you're spouting? These are all serious questions.
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