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04.05.2011, 19:35
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I've been stunned by what I've just been shown. Osama yoga mats
Some examples:
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04.05.2011, 19:39
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | I've been stunned by what I've just been shown. Osama yoga mats
Some examples: | | | | | Distasteful, but I am sure that this is only the tip of the iceberg.
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04.05.2011, 19:40
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Aparently the house that he lived in was valued at $250,000 and not $1M as first estimated by the US government ....i smell bullshit.
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04.05.2011, 19:42
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | I've been stunned by what I've just been shown. Osama yoga mats
Some examples: | | | | | Do they work? | 
04.05.2011, 19:46
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Distasteful, but I am sure that this is only the tip of the iceberg. | | | | | Quite true. Still, a lovely example of hate speech. | Quote: | |  | | | Do they work? | | | | | I guess they're functioning yoga mats, yes. With hate speech.
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04.05.2011, 21:41
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Aparently the house that he lived in was valued at $250,000 and not $1M as first estimated by the US government ....i smell bullshit. | | | | | You buying? If not what does the price matter?
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04.05.2011, 22:24
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Quite true. Still, a lovely example of hate speech. | | | | | What's wrong with hating a racist mass murderer ?
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04.05.2011, 22:30
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Aparently the house that he lived in was valued at $250,000 and not $1M as first estimated by the US government ....i smell bullshit. | | | | | Guess it wasn't oil under the compound like they first figured then.
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04.05.2011, 22:54
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | What's wrong with hating a racist mass murderer ? | | | | | Hate's a wasted emotion. It also makes you as bad as those you hate.
Not to mention it kind of goes against everything these people allegedly stand for - including their christian values. But hate speech isn't just individual hate, it is inciting others. Those slogans do just that.
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04.05.2011, 22:58
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Hate's a wasted emotion. It also makes you as bad as those you hate.
Not to mention it kind of goes against everything these people allegedly stand for - including their christian values. But hate speech isn't just individual hate, it is inciting others. Those slogans do just that. | | | | | There was no incitment in those mats, only Schadenfruede.
Hating your enemy, especially one as nasty as OBL, is at least understandable - and in this case harmless.
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04.05.2011, 23:16
| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | I've been stunned by what I've just been shown. Osama yoga mats
Some examples: | | | | | I call that taking passive-aggressive to an extreme
My sister's hypothesis is that Al Qaeda, thought bin Laden was looking a bit sickly and weak and was projecting the right image to bring in donations, so they traded him in for the $25 Million reward. The badly needed funds have reinvigorated movement. Not a bad deal really with his popularity waning, they traded him in while he was still worth something.
Joking apart it seems like the photos have been leaked, it would be in really bad taste to see them on the forum.
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05.05.2011, 07:01
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed.
Because hate will make you bitter, angry, and ugly and will only hurt you in the end.
The signs are showing already mate. I only say this because I care. | Quote: | |  | | | What's wrong with hating a racist mass murderer ? | | | | | | The following 4 users would like to thank i-b-deborah for this useful post: | | 
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Because hate will make you bitter, angry, and ugly and will only hurt you in the end.
The signs are showing already mate. I only say this because I care. | | | | | Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering. | The following 4 users would like to thank Chuff for this useful post: | | 
05.05.2011, 09:16
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | I've been stunned by what I've just been shown. Osama yoga mats
Some examples: | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | What's wrong with hating a racist mass murderer ? | | | | | | Quote: | |  | | | There was no incitment in those mats, only Schadenfruede.
Hating your enemy, especially one as nasty as OBL, is at least understandable - and in this case harmless. | | | | | On two of those mats, they have hate speech against Islam and Muslims, not against Osama. Osama is just an excuse to vomit on people's belief.
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05.05.2011, 09:35
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Black Hawk Down II | | | | | My duvet is Black Hawk Down.
I think.
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05.05.2011, 10:18
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Why am I getting, more and more, this feeling that either this was an jumbled up operation or US was framed into it.
The reason I say it is that Pakistan, a third world country, is constantly trying to contradict US (present day super power)'s account and details of the operation.
President of US says "Thank you Pakistan for your support and cooperation" - President of Pakistan says " What was that? We dont know what you are talkign about?!"
US says it was Pak Intel failure and Pakistan says it was World Intelligence failure.
SEALs first said OBL was armed and retaliated and nwo they say he was unarmed?! Account changed to fit in some need or possible storyline.
US is refusing to release the pics of dead OBL, while some journalist in Pakistan is claiming that Pak Army were also watching the whole operation real time, or were atleast getting minute by minute audio account of the oeration.
US says it only took the dead body of OBL and was buried at sea. ISI has now said that US SEALs took one person live, probably OBL's son and the rest of OBL's family and other "people" present in the compound at that time are in "safe custody" in with ISI. Also that OBL's daughter saw her father being shot.
Now.. being a logical person I would have thought... when President Obama said "Thank you Pakistan authorities for your coperation" the Pakistanis could have just said "Thank you for the appreciation, we always aim to please... we had OBL's compound under surveillance for years and we were just trying to get intel on his contacts and greater organisation to eliminate whole of Al Qaeda organisation." Bow down, wave and smile and got back to corruption! - Just perfect PR move and justification and both sides can avoid this, for now, mild mud slinging and under handed patronising comments.
Like I had said in my previous post, the clue would be what brought down the other helicopter.
Mechanical failure on a to top secret mission of Elite US SEALs team?
Or...
The chopper was brought down to force the SEALs team into an awkward position to decide how many people they could actually take back on the return journey and how many and who to leave behind in "safe custody" with ISI?
Some things just dont add up. Also there were quite a few civilian eye witnesses, from the neighbourhood, who saw the whole operation as it was being carried out.
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05.05.2011, 10:25
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | rld Intelligence failure.
SEALs first said OBL was armed and retaliated and nwo they say he was unarmed?! Account changed to fit in some need or possible storyline. | | | | |
just to address this one point.... do you need to be armed in order to retaliate?
according to yesterday Intl Herald Trib -OBL was wearing a Shalwar kameez ( my understand is that is the long blousey shirt thing and trousers ) so assuming he had time to get dressed before SEALS got there they ( the SEALS ) would have to assume he MAY have also had time to put on first that favourite fashion accessory of terrorists.. the suicide belt
possibility of a suicide belt... hence the head shot.
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | just to address this one point.... do you need to be armed in order to retaliate?
according to yesterday Intl Herald Trib -OBL was wearing a Shalwar kameez ( my understand is that is the long blousey shirt thing and trousers ) so assuming he had time to get dressed before SEALS got there they ( the SEALS ) would have to assume he MAY have also had time to put on first that favourite fashion accessory of terrorists.. the suicide belt
possibility of a suicide belt... hence the head shot. | | | | | The point is not if he retaliated or what attire he was wearing.. but the change of account of the events.
Now from what I know Navy SEALs are highly capable and very well trained personnell who are well prepared to be dropped into hostile situations where they have to assess the surroundings, people around, armed or unarmed, how many and in what positions and to plan and carry out a counter manouevere or offensive within seconds. That is their job, if my understanding is correct.
Now portraying a SEAL like a civilian victim (dare I saw a woman) whos been through a traumatic experience and cannot recall the event clearly is highly absurd. Why would you do discredit or undermine your Elite force?
Dont forget they head helmet mounted cameras and the whole event was recorded too!
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05.05.2011, 10:41
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | Mechanical failure on a to top secret mission of Elite US SEALs team?
Or...
The chopper was brought down to force the SEALs team into an awkward position to decide how many people they could actually take back on the return journey and how many and who to leave behind in "safe custody" with ISI? | | | | | I'm sure they are the only two possible options, well done.
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| | Re: US gov. claiming Osama bin Laden killed. | Quote: | |  | | | possibility of a suicide belt... hence the head shot. | | | | | Or maybe he looked a bit Brazilian...
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