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Ouchboy 02.05.2011 11:55

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Originally Posted by summerrain (Post 1183366)
EPIC FAIL!

Fox news is fail. didn't you know that?

phdoofus 02.05.2011 12:00

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US president announces death of Bin Laden.
Numerous pundits on Internet forums express doubt and claim all others are sheep.

It's surprising the latter aren't more famous and reknowned for their critical thinking skills and data mining abilities.

terryhall 02.05.2011 12:08

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I noted as well that Obama's speech referred to Bin Laden's role as the leader of al Qaeda for the last 20 years, but didn't refer to his time as leader before that, when the USA were quite happy to supply him with cash and weapons to fund his campaign against the Russians in Afghanistan.

God Bless Rose-tinted spectacles.

Mikey 02.05.2011 12:13

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Originally Posted by terryhall (Post 1183390)
I noted as well that Obama's speech referred to Bin Laden's role as the leader of al Qaeda for the last 20 years, but didn't refer to his time as leader before that, when the USA were quite happy to supply him with cash and weapons to fund his campaign against the Russians in Afghanistan.

God Bless Rose-tinted spectacles.

Also the fact that al Qaeda was invented by the US so that members could be prosecuted under the same laws used for members of the Mafia and other such organisations. I love the fact that al Qaeda is held responsible for anything kicking off in the world, it's so much more terrifying if the average in-duh-vidual thinks that there is a huge organisation behind these events.

cannut 02.05.2011 12:21

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To those people which think it is in poor taste to celebrating Bin Laden`s dead .I radder see them celebrating , then mourning more civilian victims

terryhall 02.05.2011 12:40

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Originally Posted by cannut (Post 1183405)
To those people which think it is in poor taste to celebrating Bin Laden`s dead .I radder see them celebrating , then mourning more civilian victims

Interesting viewpoint - would you apply the same logic to those Afghan citizens who might celebrate in the streets of Kabul in the event of a successful assassination of Obama?

The world is not divided into "good guys" and "bad guys" in such clear terms.

ukal123 02.05.2011 12:41

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Btw, was just wondering who gets the millions of USD that were offered as reward ? The solder who killed him ? I dont mind volunteering for it...

cannut 02.05.2011 12:43

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Originally Posted by terryhall (Post 1183416)
Interesting viewpoint - would you apply the same logic to those Afghan citizens who might celebrate in the streets of Kabul in the event of a successful assassination of Obama?

The world is not divided into "good guys" and "bad guys" in such clear terms.

Im not celebrating !

evilshell 02.05.2011 12:45

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Originally Posted by terryhall (Post 1183416)
Interesting viewpoint - would you apply the same logic to those Afghan citizens who might celebrate in the streets of Kabul in the event of a successful assassination of Obama?

The world is not divided into "good guys" and "bad guys" in such clear terms.

And seeing video of Americans celebrating and singing god bless america, rejoicing made me think of exactly that - those who go out into the streets in Kabul, Iran, etc. with guns in the air to celebrate deaths.

cyrus 02.05.2011 12:48

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 1183397)
I love the fact that al Qaeda is held responsible for anything kicking off in the world, it's so much more terrifying if the average in-duh-vidual thinks that there is a huge organisation behind these events.

Like the in-duh-viduals who instead think that the secret USA government is the huge organisation behind anything that kicks off in the world.

Mikey 02.05.2011 12:50

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Originally Posted by terryhall (Post 1183416)
The world is not divided into "good guys" and "bad guys" in such clear terms.

The good guys sleep better at night, but the bad guys enjoy the waking hours much more :D

Mikey 02.05.2011 12:51

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Originally Posted by cyrus (Post 1183427)
Like the in-duh-viduals who instead think that the secret USA government is the huge organisation behind anything that kicks off in the world.

What's more terrifying, organised crime, organised terrorism or organised governments :p

PaddyG 02.05.2011 12:52

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Originally Posted by evilshell (Post 1183305)
Ah, but what makes a monster? He killed a couple thousand, the US military has killed far more than that in the middle east. The military videos of American soldiers picking off with sniper shots civilians in the street, cheering at their deaths. That is monstrous.

I agree that the US "death squads" are horrific, but I would put money on the fact that more people have been killed by non-Americans than by Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan (I could have said Muslims killed by Muslims, but we're not going there again. Please ;)).

cyrus 02.05.2011 12:53

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Originally Posted by Mikey (Post 1183430)
What's more terrifying, organised crime, organised terrorism or organised governments :p

Unorganised crime, unorganised terrorism and unorganised govenrments.

marton 02.05.2011 12:56

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From today's newspapers

"In the West Bank, the Palestinian Authority welcomed Bin Laden's death."

"Getting rid of Bin Laden is good for the cause of peace worldwide but what counts is to overcome the discourse and the methods - the violent methods - that were created and encouraged by Bin Laden and others in the world," PA spokesman Ghassan Khatib said.

Swissmountainair 02.05.2011 12:58

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Just one week ago the media worldwide were full of stories about the wikileak of the Al Qaeda threat of a "nuclear hellstorm" in the event that Bin Laden was ever killed or captured. So far I've not heard one mention of that story today. Lets hope that it was all just hot air from a bunch of frustrated *&^%s.


The original story as reported by newspapers around the world on April 25 was
"WASHINGTON: Al-Qaida terrorists have threatened to unleash a "nuclear hellstorm" on the West if their leader and world's most wanted terrorist Osama bin Laden is nabbed.

A senior al-Qaida commander has claimed that the terror group has stashed away a nuclear bomb in Europe which will be detonated if bin Laden is ever caught or assassinated, according to new top secret files made public by internet whistleblower WikiLeaks.

The documents are secret details of the background to the capture of each of the 780 people held at or have passed through the Guantanamo Bay detention camp in Cuba, along with their medical condition and the information they have provided during interrogations."

SOBEIT 02.05.2011 13:31

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Al Qaida is an organisation that has revelled in Osama bin Laden`s view of being anti west in terms of policies, culture and influence. From Hamas killers in Gaza to Hizbollah terrorists in Lebenon to islamist fighters across South-East Asia, they all have one common approach. This is to use suicide bombing as its main tool of destruction. Sorry, he will not be missed by me.

mirfield 02.05.2011 13:38

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Originally Posted by SOBEIT (Post 1183462)
Sorry, he will not be missed by me.

He probably won't be missed by the world's terrorists either. They'll carry on killing quite happily without him.

SOBEIT 02.05.2011 13:45

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Obama 1
Osama 0

terryhall 02.05.2011 13:47

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Originally Posted by SOBEIT (Post 1183469)
Obama 1
Osama 0

errrr.... don't you mean that the other way around? :msnsarcastic:


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