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Probably more bothered about what will now get shouted at his kids.

It's easy to say that he brought it on himself and his family, but he's not done anything that thousands of men up and down the country haven't done before him.

It's a pity that he had to take this line to defend himself against a business that wants to sell papers no matter what the cost to his family.

The public have absolutely no right to know about this affair.
so why did he name her in the injunction thereby putting her name in the papers?
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The fans overall reaction was the same (of those broadcast) - even if there are differences in specifics - they didn't seem bov'r'd - so long as it didn't effect his ability to run down the wing.
Well, the way he was playing at the start of the season, seemed there was still a piece stuck up there.
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They said last night on the news that Giggs not only got the super injunction to stop imogen whatsername from talking about the affair, but he named her in the injunction thereby telling the world it was her that had slept with him. Added to that the arrogance of suggesting he was going to sue any twitter or other forum member for mentioning his name shows what a class act he is- all in the name of "protecting his name"
I think he has done so much damage to his name in all of this he deserves all of it.
Yein. If you or I had an affair - whether together or not - then it wouldn't even make a footnote in any paper or the internet.

Famous people don't have that luxury and find their lives torn apart by news agencies trying to make money... get this quote from the Beeb's lawyer...

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Their obligations?! FFS, the arrogance actually made my mouth open. News agencies have no obligations to their readers/viewers. It is not news when someone shags someone else. The idea that they have an "obligation" to viewers/readers to report this is, quite frankly sick. Besides, I don't believe they feel any obligation other than making money.

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Sorry went a bit off on one there. But back on topic, we can discuss the rights or wrongs of having an affair or whatever, but the point is that we won't all have our lives put under a microscope in quite the same way as the rich & famous.
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Old 24.05.2011, 10:08
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so why did he name her in the injunction thereby putting her name in the papers?
I have no idea. I really don't know how one goes about applying for an injunction, and I don't know who said what to whom.

My point was that he shouldn't even have needed to. There was no genuine reason to publish the story other than profiteering by pandering to the salaciousness of their readers.

That the whole thing became a media circus because of the injunction is an unfortunate side effect of the press bleating about their right to publish any old shit they like. Giggs is just collateral damage.
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Old 24.05.2011, 10:15
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I have no idea. I really don't know how one goes about applying for an injunction, and I don't know who said what to whom.

My point was that he shouldn't even have needed to. There was no genuine reason to publish the story other than profiteering by pandering to the salaciousness of their readers.

That the whole thing became a media circus because of the injunction is an unfortunate side effect of the press bleating about their right to publish any old shit they like. Giggs is just collateral damage.
So you don`t think he was thinking more about his sponsors (tiger woods is a good example) rather than if his kids got called names at school. im more cynical about that. On the question of the press, I believe that it should be legal to shoot the assholes that camp outside peoples houses , hound them in the streets and cause fatal accidents (yep i do believe that was) in the name of the public interest.
Grumpygit did not have an affair with Carlos! Im callin a judge!
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Old 24.05.2011, 10:18
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I don't wish to sound harsh, but if you marry a footballer you get what you deserve. From what I can see, most of the WAGS stick by their meal ticket.. er, I mean man, except those with self-respect and their own careers e.g. Cheryl Cole
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I don't wish to sound harsh, but if you marry a footballer you get what you deserve. From what I can see, most of the WAGS stick by their meal ticket.. er, I mean man, except those with self-respect and their own careers e.g. Cheryl Cole

You've now lost all credibility; you said self-respect and Cheryl Cole in the same sentence.
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You've now lost all credibility; you said self-respect and Cheryl Cole in the same sentence.
I thought he meant carers
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Old 24.05.2011, 10:40
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I don't wish to sound harsh, but if you marry a footballer you get what you deserve. From what I can see, most of the WAGS stick by their meal ticket.. er, I mean man, except those with self-respect and their own careers e.g. Cheryl Cole
Cheryl got out - but she took her time about it.

If two people in my office had an affair they would be gossiped about. When someone famous does it then the gossip may go to print, right or wrong it is a risk they take.

Do they think that these women are getting horizontal with them in hotel rooms for their wit, intelligence, perhaps because of their obvious good character? Or could there perhaps be another, more money motivated reason?
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Old 24.05.2011, 10:46
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except those with self-respect and their own careers e.g. Cheryl Cole

lol there are plenty of rumors regarding that couple, like his sexuality and her trial for racial abuse
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That the whole thing became a media circus because of the injunction is an unfortunate side effect of the press bleating about their right to publish any old shit they like. Giggs is just collateral damage.

If it's true why shouldn't the press be allowed to publish it?

If I have an affair and everyone in Basel finds out then my life would be as uncomfortable as Giggs' will be now. I'd lose friends, respect, trust and potentialy my job if it was with the "wrong person". Everyone should have to live with the consequences of their actions, celebrity or not. Money should not be the deciding factor in saying who can get away with murder and who not.

I see your point that it's feeding the public with idle gossip but how is that any different from the hundreds of tv reality shows that are aired and can go on to tarnish "Joe Public's" reputation by careful editing on the part of the producer's. It's car crash tv and it's what the public thrive on nowadays.

The likes of Facebook etc. are making each and every one of us more likely to end up in trouble because of our private actions. How many times do we hear nowadays of people losing their jobs due to silly remarks on the internet. People aren't slagging off their jobs/colleagues/boss more than normal, it's just that social media has opened up the opportunity for the public to broadcast information easily.
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If I have an affair and everyone in Basel finds out then my life would be as uncomfortable as Giggs' will be now. I'd lose friends, respect, trust and potentialy my job if it was with the "wrong person". Everyone should have to live with the consequences of their actions, celebrity or not. Money should not be the deciding factor in saying who can get away with murder and who not.
But we're not talking about murder, are we?

We're talking about people who go and have sex with other consenting adults. There is no law, in the UK at least, that says adulterers should not be allowed to have jobs, i.e. affect their ability to work. I don't agree with what Gigg's did, however, it is his business, not mine.

The converse of what you write is that money should not be an excuse for the press to target you to "dish the dirt on" - which it patently does. The difference is that if you have an affair, no one bar your friends/family give a toss - pardon the pun. If someone "rich and famous" does, then the press love nothing more than "exposing" it, and seem to feel that they have this right to do so. Do you really think they do it because they feel they have a moral obligation to report this, a crusade for the truth if you will?

I don't...

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My point was that he shouldn't even have needed to. There was no genuine reason to publish the story other than profiteering by pandering to the salaciousness of their readers.
Ha! He should slap them with a writ for a share of the earnings from sales... that would soon stop the press if you went after their profits.
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The difference is that if you have an affair, no one bar your friends/family give a toss
Not true, like I said, if people in my office misbehave they are gossiped about by many people who are not friends or family. Often there doesn't have to be any truth in the rumours that go around in here, at least if there were lies told about a footballer he could sue and get a pay off.

I don't read gossip mags etc, I find it all small minded - but I do just think it is a bigger version of the water cooler which is spurred on further by money.
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Old 24.05.2011, 12:12
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Not true, like I said, if people in my office misbehave they are gossiped about by many people who are not friends or family. Often there doesn't have to be any truth in the rumours that go around in here, at least if there were lies told about a footballer he could sue and get a pay off.

I don't read gossip mags etc, I find it all small minded - but I do just think it is a bigger version of the water cooler which is spurred on further by money.
Point 1) they don't care - they want to gossip, but they don't care
Point 2) I've not heard anything about the gossip from your office... if you get my drift
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You've now lost all credibility; you said self-respect and Cheryl Cole in the same sentence.
I bow to your superior knowledge of celebrity gossip
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Point 1) they don't care - they want to gossip, but they don't care
Point 2) I've not heard anything about the gossip from your office... if you get my drift
1.) Nor do I care who any footballer has romped - those reading it also only want to gossip
2.) Thousands of people who do work in my office have heard others being trashed, you would too if you worked here, Giggs is "known" by more people the gossip spreads further

If he hadn't taken the injunction I wouldn't have known as I don't read celeb gossip - he made it front page
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If they beat barca on Saturday I say he gets a free pass with one of next years BB hopefuls with a super injunction in the bargain - all in the name of team spirit.
I'd love to see it if he scored in the final and ran off to celebrate lifting his jersey to reveal a tee-shirt reading.........ern......"Please Forgive Me" or "Please Marry Me" or "Max-Clifford.com" or ?????
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More info

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I'd love to see it if he scored in the final and ran off to celebrate lifting his jersey to reveal a tee-shirt reading.........ern......"Please Forgive Me" or "Please Marry Me" or "Max-Clifford.com" or ?????
I guess the traditional hairy chest / shirt waving celebration would do for most United fans and most women...

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1.) Nor do I care who any footballer has romped - those reading it also only want to gossip
2.) Thousands of people who do work in my office have heard others being trashed, you would too if you worked here, Giggs is "known" by more people the gossip spreads further
OK, so clearly you didn't get my drift. I haven't heard any gossip from your office because it doesn't warrant the attention of the press. Why? Because it is not interesting. But when it comes attached to a footballer, all of a sudden, it is interesting. Why? Because it sells. The stuff going around your office doesn't.

Do you not see the double standard?

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If he hadn't taken the injunction I wouldn't have known as I don't read celeb gossip - he made it front page
Oh so wrong. If he hadn't taken the injunction, you'd have known about it much sooner. That's point you seem to be failing to get.

You are allowed a private life - as in the press are not interested in you (or your office colleagues) - no offence.

Rich and/or famous people are not, simple because their are rich and/or famous. Those who sell glossy mags believe they have a right to know all the details of everything in the name of "public interest", and nothing sells better than sex.
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