I think that egyptians still have a long way to go before women and facts are respected.

Maybe you're right and this is in many other countries in the world, though what is happening recently have nothing to do with this and it's pretty obvious it's a major campaign against the army

How would you suggest Egyptians go about achieving this?

I hate it when people bring in Logic into any sensible discussion.

I could have written that! The only thing that I don;t totally agree with is that it was partly Obama's speech in Egypt on human rights that accelerated things. I am suspicious about one ting though to do with Wall Street, Muslim banking and the influence of China. But have to go out so I will try to research and piece it together later.

Egyptians should move away from Honour based society to a Respect based one.

Honour is a fragile things - which depends on flimsy things such as Hymens and dubious military "Achievements" and is the cause of much bloodshed and violence.

Honour evades those who actively seek it and can be taken away, Respect doesn't.

Once Egyptians respect themselves, their women and their neighbours they will be on the right track.

As long as Israel continues to be the sole cause of all evil, the world remains a simple place because nobody else will ever need to accept any responsibility and under those conditions respect and initiative remain essentially meaningless concepts.

When the protests began I was happy because it showed people realising that they could control their own destiny rather than always blaming others (be it Israel, or evil dictators, or the colinial past or whatever other excuse lends itself). Now where has that spirit gone?

Those cars are at night when men are drunk. hell in Switzerland they have parking spaces for women only that have cameras on them in parking garages.

That being said, you can't compare Japan to Egypt. I've lived in Japan, and have a friend working in Egypt, a good friend.

Japanese men don't harass women on the streets who are not "covered", they don't chase Western women down the street like they are raw meat, there are no honor killings in Japan, there is no forced arranged marriage in Japan. Japanese women are discriminated against from a Western perspective, but that's another topic, and I would argue some Japanese women do not want to live like what they see as the life of a Western woman, they are more traditional (on average).

That being said there is A LOT of daylight between the life of women in Egypt and Japan. A lot. Compare drunk Japanese men coming back from some company happy hour behaving badly to 100% sober Egyptian men hanging out on the streets in mid-day is not a very good comparison.

Do you really think that western women are chased down the streets all over Egypt? Why is it such a popular holiday destination for western tourists?

Do western tourists like to harassed and chased down the street?

Something about pyramids...pretty much...and riding camels across the dunes...

Women get chased down the streets just so they can see some pyramids? I thought women had more self respect for themselves.

No one is putting the blame on Israel, it's the Israelis who need to mind their own business once and for all, that's it.

comparing all egyptian men to DSK or Clinton as sex obsessed depraved people is also not a very good comparison. Your story about men chasing western women as raw meat is simplistic if not just a sign of ignorance. Considering how some western men chase raw meat in Thailand, Dominican Republic, Kenya, Russian, Brasil and other sex tourism destination does not give any moral authority to judge others.

I guess some people think these shameful act coming from Western men is acceptable as they're far more superior than Egyptians / Arabs

in comparison to Libya and Syria there is little in the news about Bahrain.

http://www.npr.org/2011/05/31/136818...ains-crackdown

You are only inferior if you think you are, nobody esle can make you feel inferior.

It is only acceptable in the Western media, Eastern media already portrays Westerners are decadents who are willing to bare and pimp their women for commercial benefit.

The unsaid fact about all these revolutions in Middle East and elsewhere is the people are actually pissed off with this imposed Western arrogance. For now they are going after the symbols of Western dominance i.e. imposed dictators. Soon they will be after the bases and the personnel too, will like a deja vu of Iranian revolution.

Money and well being is good, but to some people dignity and honour is more important and there comes a time when nothing else would matter. It would become all so easy especially for people who believe "God is the only master of their fate and nobody else"

Question for the West to think about is: Corrupt people from the East, when they get caught out, they flee towards the West and get asylum along with their wealth and live the rest of their life in luxury. Where would the corrupt Western leaders flee to? Hmmm... time to get Police State!

here in the US so much is being publicized about the victims in Syria and Libya, the Syrian boy (Hamza) now has his own Facebook page and comment from Hilary Clinton. However there is hardly anything about Bahrain. This will cause mistrust and instability. The elephant in the room is Saudi Arabia and women's rights there.

In the meantime,western banks are losing business to Islamic banking. Even westerners are investing in Islamic banks because they believe them to be a safer option. Surely business follows the banks? Western businesses cannot afford to lose Saudi business. China may own much of the US but so does Saudi Arabia. China seemed to be building a string relationship with Qatar but now Qatar has ruled that they will only allow Muslim banks, not western bans that offer Muslim services. The Qatari national bank is doing well even Egypt is up

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...74921B20110510

I am still trying to work this all out, but find it very interesting. Crimes against humanity occur in all countries, but the choice of which to publicize and which not is politically and business oriented.

Isn't the very concept of islamic banking a misnomer because Islam does not allow interest to be charged and Islamic banks are using a devious constructs around that but at the core they're just putting the Western banking system with all its good points and bad in a perfumed burka and calling it an islamic banking sytem. Any reasonably aware Muslim can see through it.

Tha's what they also said about Ghaddafi as they continued to kiss his feet while he was kicking them in the teeth. But things can change very quickly and today people do business with Ghaddafi at their own peril. The Saudi hegemony may not be as rock solid as it thinks either and their arrogance may yet turn around to haunt them.

If the Saudis think they can outsmart the Chinese they may have a surprise coming.

Answering Hoppy is like expecting Mowvich to accept that Israel is not conspiring to steal the Nile from Egypt. useless.