Russia Implements

AmericanGotWorkVisa · #1 13.06.2011, 09:53

Russia, to prevent identity theft (which is prevalent there) are rolling out ATMs that can scan your passport, your finger prints, YOUR FACE, and even your voice to identify you real-time.

Cool or not? Ist Hammer order nicht?

http://tech.slashdot.org/story/11/06...e-Detector-ATM

KeinFranzösisch · #2 13.06.2011, 09:57

Having been a victim of ID theft, I vote for "cool". But I also vote for uncool.

It's a slippery slope.

Sky · #3 13.06.2011, 10:01

George Orwell was only 27 years off.... not bad

MrVertigo · #4 13.06.2011, 10:06

mafia will be forced to cut your index finger to use your card....coool

jacek · #5 13.06.2011, 10:19

I knew that somehow I can still make use out of otherwise redundant passport in some of the ATM's (EU countries do not require it anymore to travel)

With evolution of key enabling technologies in IT, the hackers and scammers have become even more clever and unstopabble. One wonders how safe ATM withdrawals and internet banking will be in new cyber theft era. At least back in SA criminals still retort to primitive cash in transit heists or ATM bombings. Only clever few will swop your cards or insert the thin card readers inside the machines to retrieve you code.

Saulius · #6 13.06.2011, 10:35

What happens when the ATM machine detects you as a
false positive, and you are stuck penniless in the middle
of the night.

No need to chop of fingertips, there are numerous
techniques to create molds of fingerprints, using
gummy, gelatin, silicon, etc.

MrVertigo · #7 13.06.2011, 10:43

	Quote:	Saulius
	What happens when the ATM machine detects you as a false positive, and you are stuck penniless in the middle of the night. No need to chop of fingertips, there are numerous techniques to create molds of fingerprints, using gummy, gelatin, silicon, etc.

False positive is actually good, i could make usage of your bank account

the problem is the false negative when the system denies access although you claim to be the legit owner of the account.

jacek · #8 13.06.2011, 10:45

	Quote:	Saulius
	What happens when the ATM machine detects you as a false positive, and you are stuck penniless in the middle of the night. No need to chop of fingertips, there are numerous techniques to create molds of fingerprints, using gummy, gelatin, silicon, etc.

These rough guys won't even bother to look for a silicon at the first place when they get you. One of the reasons I would never wear a bling-bling stuff in some dodgy places.

Saulius · #9 13.06.2011, 11:45

I think you have false positive, and false negative mixed up:

type II errors (or false negatives) classify imposters as authorized users
type I errors (or false positive) classify authorized users as imposters.

	Quote:	MrVertigo
	False positive is actually good, i could make usage of your bank account the problem is the false negative when the system denies access although you claim to be the legit owner of the account.

Cashboy · #10 13.06.2011, 11:57

computer says no!!

MrVertigo · #11 13.06.2011, 12:01

	Quote:	Saulius
	I think you have false positive, and false negative mixed up: type II errors (or false negatives) classify imposters as authorized users type I errors (or false positive) classify authorized users as imposters.

you are right.
I mixed up cause in biometrics false negative = false acceptance and false positive = false rejection ...... (in my foggy mind negative= rejection and positive= acceptance).