It's not really discrimintation though is it? It's more of applying an age appropriate set of rules. Babies aren't frequently welcomed into bars, brothels, adult sex shops, cinema's etc. but you don't get a load of people jumping on the discrimination bandwagon. I have a kid and if I had enough money to travel first class, I'd either leave my little one with her grandparents (shock horror) or wait until she was old enough to behave appropriately.

Well, if you're in 1st class and there is a crying baby, I would consider whether it's worth the hassle to ask the parents to keep it quiet

absolutely, but how would you organize that? Having a "Please tick if you are an inept parent and/or think the sun shines out of your precious child's backside and they can do no wrong?" box while buying tickets probably would not work.

I'd just use forceful restraint on them and their out of control kids, like they do with violent, aggressive drunks......then ban them until the kids are old enough to travel alone

I can't believe this one got under the radar

this company banned kids years ago and have so far got away with it

http://www.sandals.com/

how dare adults want to get away for a nice relaxing holiday without kids spoiling everything, something NEEDS to be done about this!!

Hmmm... Malaysians?

I'd guess that the only ones bringing kids on first class are actually the mentioned "celebs"... the Beckhams or Brangelinas of this world.

Like Club Med (most of them anyway), these resorts are for MAKING the babies, not entertaining them after the fact.

and now they will have to use one of the many other hundreds of airlines out there instead. while those who don't want to have kids around them have a choice of 1 airline.

Sorry but I'm a parent myself and I wouldn't want to be stuck in a plane with a screaming kid, and if I'd paid thousands, maybe tens of thousands for plane tickets I'd be very pissed off!!

My dogs and toddler are far better behaved and less smelly then half the people I see flying about. Also, I have heard over here that Americans are usually quite loud and annoying... which I don't disagree with. However I don't plan on flying to/from Malaysia anytime soon, and I am all for a Sandals resort get away with grandparents watching the children. SO I guess all in all I don't really care. The thing that annoys me is people having double standards all the time.

Everyone knows that the biggest cry babies on board are the dudes in the cockpit whining about their salaries and working hours, blah, blah, blah and the Intercontinental in Hong Kong isn't like it was in the 80s blah, blah. You monitor the Flight Management System, program all your waypoints during briefing, check your en-route weather on your iPad 2 and then get to collect UV & IR rays at flight level 430 all the way to destination. Easy life.

Just watch this story develop when Aeropers instruct Swiss pilots to strike as early as next week.

They did !! They created BEACHES so you can bring the brats (sorry. little darlings) with you.

Link: http://www.beaches.com/

damn it, now I'll need to find something else to be outraged about

Yes, but imagine the indignant posts on the EF if the attendant had put a dog in the overhead locker!

Cheers,
Nick

I don't have double standards. I'm all for kids being allowed to be kids and there are places in the world that both kids and adults need to be tolerant of each other and share. Some places kids need to have priority, others it's adults who deserve it.

Pushchair sections on trams/ball pit at Ikea* = kids
1st class on planes/adult only environments = adults

*sorry mirfield, you do not class as a kid

It's NOT FAIR!

I think my dog will prefer it up there!

That piece of news doesnt really change much for the mere mortals to be honest. I mean, how many of us do travel first class even if you are earning 200 000 chuffs?

I'd be more excited if this rule is extended to ALL classes - on ALL airlines *ducks*

Oh Absolutely! Of course, they would need to make exceptions when I want to travel with my (potential) Precious First Born, right?

Quite a change from when I flew with them, my two got their own seats (2.5 years and 7 months old) when I flew up front with Malaysia, and we only paid for two adults... Youngest slept like a log all sprawled out, might have been different if she had to share...

and after that, they changed the policy?

AHHH..........so it was you!!!!