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Re: Question for Americans: What is it with the South?

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I know this is slightly OT but here is a suggestion for a trip down south:
Land in Atlanta: Visit Stone Mountain Park, CNN guided tour, Coca Cola Museum
Drive to Memphis: Visit the Jack Daniels distillery in Lynchburg, TN
once in Memphis: Visit the freedom rights Museum (formerly knows as the Lorraine Motel where Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated), visit the recording studio (in the same neighborhood), visit Graceland, eat some ribs at BB King's restaurant, walk down Beale Street and listen to some live music
Head to Nashville: visit the Belle Meade Plantation (www.bellemeadeplantation.com), walk around downtown and head to Coyote Ugly
Drive back to Atlanta: stop by in Chattanooga, there is this Pizza place downtown (can't miss it), where you'll get some very delicious Pizza.
Oh, and if I may add. Stay clear of banjo playing children and their relatives. I've seen a documentary, where it turned very ugly.
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One further issue with the south is that the accent tends to confuse non native English speakers. I have friends here who speak English fairly well, we had a guy from NC and you would have thought he was from Mars the way people looked at him. I had to translate from "southern" to my "midwestern" English, then my Swiss friends would speak directly to this guy from NC in English, it was really funny.
Even Americans sometimes have trouble with southern American dialects and accents. At a small airport in the south, I was asked by security to do something. She repeated herself a few times, each time I was dumbfounded as to what she was asking. A colleague of hers finally translated for me.
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Let's not forget New Orleans. If you keep going south from Memphis then you can go through Clarksdale, MS and see the "alleged" crossroads where Robert Johnson sold his soul (also where Sam Cooke, Son House, John Lee Hooker, Ike Turner, and Muddy Waters were born); then drive through the Delta down to Vicksburg and check out the town; then hook over into Louisiana and go down to New Orleans where you can go see the Rebirth Brass Band ever Tuesday night at the Maple Leaf, wander around the French Quarter, eat like a king at Jacque Imo's, Drago's, and Casamento's; from there I'd head west on I-10 through the swamps before cutting a little north and hitting Austin, where you can hang out around South Congress for coffeee and people watching, see a show at the Continental Club, swim at Barton Springs, and get some breakfast tacos at the Tamale House on Airport (guess where I spent almost 10 years??).

Now that's a hell of a lot of driving, sure, but with a lot of great sights on the way.

The thing about a lot of those areas is that it really depends on when you want to go how "wise" it is... Hurricane season, hot humid etc.. no way would I be in New Orleans in July or August, June and September being "iffy" already. It is still lovely and lively but the smell of swamp pervades.
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Oh, and if I may add. Stay clear of banjo playing children and their relatives. I've seen a documentary, where it turned very ugly.
LiB.. we've already discussed racism now I do wish you wouldn't talk about my family like that.
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The thing about a lot of those areas is that it really depends on when you want to go how "wise" it is... Hurricane season, hot humid etc.. no way would I be in New Orleans in July or August, June and September being "iffy" already. It is still lovely and lively but the smell of swamp pervades.
Being born and raised in Houston, I am immune to swamp heat!
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Re: Question for Americans: What is it with the South?

I'd really fancy a trip to the South now, just can't decide between bike or car.

All the stories and different opinions just make the place sound more interesting, certainly didn't put me off visiting!

(edit: oh, and maybe the fact that I know a cute chick down there helps too... )
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Oh, and if I may add. Stay clear of banjo playing children and their relatives. I've seen a documentary, where it turned very ugly.
would you care to elaborate?
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would you care to elaborate?
...Deliverance? The movie?
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Being born and raised in Houston, I am immune to swamp heat!
I just sold my house in Houston.

Which part of the swamp are you from?
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Even Americans sometimes have trouble with southern American........

did someone mention off topic....?.... I used to work support for a computer co. near Boston... one day one of the field engineers from somewhere south of the Mason/Dixon phoned in with a problem and my first question was.. ok who's the customer`?.... the guy answered and I repeated.. "sailer systems"
no, no, greg.. not sailer... sailer.. yes, I wrote sailer...

he spoke slower... no its sail-u-lar ( cellular ) systems.

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Re: Question for Americans: What is it with the South?

That reminds me of a joke:

Q: What is the difference between a good Yankee and a bad Yankee?
A: A bad Yankee stays down South when his vacation is done.
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That reminds me of a joke:

Q: What is the difference between a good Yankee and a bad Yankee?
A: A bad Yankee stays down South when his vacation is done.

and the other definition of a Yankee?

like a quickee...but you're alone.


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did someone mention off topic....?.... I used to work support for a computer co. near Boston... one day one of the field engineers from somewhere south of the Mason/Dixon phoned in with a problem and my first question was.. ok who's the customer`?.... the guy answered and I repeated.. "sailer systems"
no, no, greg.. not sailer... sailer.. yes, I wrote sailer...

he spoke slower... no its sail-u-lar ( cellular ) systems.

ahh,

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Old 12.07.2011, 15:10
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Re: Question for Americans: What is it with the South?

As I mentioned in my first post, I'm from rural north Georgia. The town is now called Rocky Face (it was previously called Buzzard's Roost).My granddaddy was a coal and copper miner.

I lived in rural N. Georgia, where an indefinite number of generations of my family is from, for 20+ years before moving to Atlanta for a decade.

But my point is that the rural south is like the rural north. I can equally cite my cousin's relatives in northern (rural) Michigan anecdotally--trailer parks, Jerry Springer appropriate story lines. But people latch on the rural south and then compare it to the urban north or to suburbia. Not a fair comparison. Furthermore, the last twenty or so years have changed the south tremendously. The south that some of us grew up in is no longer there. You may go home to discover that Buzzard's Roost now has a drive thru Starbucks and kids on their fixies. If you look at the overall picture demographically, these stereotypes are not supported. My reason for mentioning Atlanta was to provide urban comparanda for the South.

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I think you'd have to agree that Atlanta is an anomaly for the south.

My father was from the coal mining towns in rural southern West Virginia, my mother was from Gomer Pyle country (literally, Mount Pilot was the next town over; the North Carolina/Tennessee border). Both moved to Cleveland Ohio, where they met. We'd visit relatives in both areas when I was young. There were people who wouldn't talk to me when they heard my very northern accent (but when they found out I was so-and-so's relative, all was fine). There was one religion in these rural areas - protestant Christianity, even catholics were looked upon with suspicion.

My father chose to retire in a small town on the South Carolina/Georgia border. A region where people proudly celebrate the confederate flag, have gun racks in their trucks, make pilgrimages to Abbeville and hold confederate flag rallies. And a place of stunning natural beauty, as is most of the south that I know.

When my father was moving there, he brought up a neighbor to help him move everything from the family home in Ohio down to his new home. At the time, I owned a BMW 318, and when I came to the house to help him, the neighbor stood and stared at my car, slack-jawed. In the most drawl-filled drawl possible he exclaimed he'd "never seen one of them before!". (turns out he meant a BMW in general, not that model)

Unfortunately, as with many cultures and societies, people sometimes live sheltered lives and don't know much beyond 100 miles from home. Many have never seen a mosque, don't know much about Islam and get their news from Fox. Very different from the cosmopolitan Atlanta.

All of that being said, I will say that once you break through the barriers, there's nothing quite like southern hospitality.
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Our other highlights:
Staying on a plantation outside of Charleston
Cycling up the Charleston Bridge - then running up it in the early afternoon sun
I'm biased but I would say no trip to the South would be complete without a few days in Charleston.

That bridge is the New New Bridge, which replaced the Old Bridge and New Bridge just a few years ago. The Old Bridge was a trip, used to be two-way (1929-1966) until the New Bridge was built in '66. The New Bridge had the luxury of an approximately 80cm wide sidewalk- just wide enough to ride a bike on if you don't screw up (I know, I rode it on a BMX bike ).

Someone had the thought to record a last voyage on the Old Bridge shortly before it's demolition. The New Bridge and New New Bridge are to the left. All blown up and hauled off now (the New and Old that is).



Charleston also has the oldest museum in America, and lots of cool forts that date from the 1760s and were in many cases continually modified and modernized up through WWII and are now museums. If you wander around and listen to some of the older folks you might get lucky and hear some Geechee, or if you cross the bridge into Mt. Pleasant you can buy superbly crafted sweetgrass baskets from the old black ladies and possibly hear a bit of Gullah.

Geechie


Charleston's a bit of an anomaly as far as race relations. It was a major port and a primary destination and market for slaves, and later the geographical start point of the Civil War. Yet when friends visited from other parts of the South it wasn't uncommon to hear them remark upon the racial harmony. Of course the Chief of Police for the last 30 years was a black Jew named Reuben Greenberg (he retired in 2005).

If not Charleston then definitely Savannah. The coastal South is a place that is unique, a piece of the puzzle made up of odd shapes from the flat lands of Mississippi to the mountains of Tennessee.

Once you get above Tennessee they're all a bunch of Yankees.

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once you get above tennessee they're all a bunch of yankees.

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I just sold my house in Houston.

Which part of the swamp are you from?
Grew up in Spring Branch. Just sold our house in the Heights and moved here in March. You?
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I'm biased but I would say no trip to the South would be complete without a few days in Charleston.


did someone mention off topic?.. again re. that computer co. in Boston... one of our engineers was a sweet sounding southern belle based in Charleston. I would do anything once I heard her voice.

One day she called me for an emergency order at 3am and after she explained the situation and me being half asleep I just replied "yes, dear"

she went holy ape sh"t on me.
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As I mentioned in my first post, I'm from rural north Georgia. The town is now called Rocky Face (it was previously called Buzzard's Roost).My granddaddy was a coal and copper miner.

I lived in rural N. Georgia, where an indefinite number of generations of my family is from, for 20+ years before moving to Atlanta for a decade.

But my point is that the rural south is like the rural north. I can equally cite my cousin's relatives in northern (rural) Michigan anecdotally--trailer parks, Jerry Springer appropriate story lines. But people latch on the rural south and then compare it to the urban north or to suburbia. Not a fair comparison. Furthermore, the last twenty or so years have changed the south tremendously. The south that some of us grew up in is no longer there. You may go home to discover that Buzzard's Roost now has a drive thru Starbucks and kids on their fixies. If you look at the overall picture demographically, these stereotypes are not supported. My reason for mentioning Atlanta was to provide urban comparanda for the South.
Sorry, I hadn't realized that was the point you were making, I thought you were pointing out that the south is cosmopolitan

You probably know the area where my father moved to for retirement, based on where you're from.
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Re: Question for Americans: What is it with the South?

Okay, since we're telling jokes. I once overheard this conversation.

Old Man: How's that Yankee friend of yours?

Young Man: He's not a Yankee.

Old Man: His momma and daddy are from New York.

Young Man: But he was born here.

Old Man: Well a cat can have kittens in the oven but that don't make them biscuits.
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