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Extracts from a BBC article "Why do some Americanisms irritate people?"


All of these words we use without a second thought were never part of the English language until the establishment of the United States.
The Americans imported English wholesale, forged it to meet their own needs, then exported their own words back across the Atlantic to be incorporated in the way we speak over here. Those seemingly innocuous words caused fury at the time.

Ugly and pointless new usages appear in the media and drift into everyday conversation.


An obvious rant, tailing off in these words...

Britain is a very distinct country from the US. Not better, not worse, different. And long live that difference. That means maintaining the integrity of our own gloriously nuanced, subtle and supple version - the original version - of the English language.
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Old 13.07.2011, 16:41
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Old 13.07.2011, 16:45
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I read that article as well, mildly amusing but not especially well written.

Some americanisms have "fazed" me though, I was once confronted with "That's a no brainer, just slam dunk it" - I had to request a translation as although I had a rough idea what was meant I wasn't sure.
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I read that article as well, mildly amusing but not especially well written.

Some americanisms have "fazed" me though, I was once confronted with "That's a no brainer, just slam dunk it" - I had to request a translation as although I had a rough idea what was meant I wasn't sure.

I agree, a few more examples would have been nice.
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Ugly and pointless new articles appear in the media
Fixed that for him.

Some people will write any old tosh for a paycheque, won't they?
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Fixed that for him.

Some people will write any old tosh for a paycheque, won't they?
especially if they are employed by News International.
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Fixed that for him.

Some people will write any old tosh for a paycheque, won't they?
Well! I'll go to the foot of our stairs
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wow good read.

Well I'm off to play a crass game of foozeball.
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American corporate managers love their "Synergies".... I fucceen hate that when they babel on about it....

The other Americanism I hate is "networking"..... Its called making friends. And if you are "networking" with other people who are "networking" 9 times out of 10 you are both a waste of each others time.
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American corporate managers love their "Synergies".... I fucceen hate that when they babel on about it....

Moving forward, I feel it is imperative that we are on the same page about this:


Babel:


and


Babble:
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Re: Lengthy. Reliable. Talented. Influential. Tremendous.

Down with the colonies!

On a serious note, stupid corporate lingo absolutely sucks, as do corporations who try to talk about your relationship to the company in familial terms.

Um, yeah, I'm pretty sure that my mom would never "downsize" me to focus on her "low hanging fruit" if we had a bad year.

And anyone who tells you to "think outside the box" isn't following his own advice!

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No, not me, although you would be forgiven for thinking it was

Extracts from a BBC article "Why do some Americanisms irritate people?"


All of these words we use without a second thought were never part of the English language until the establishment of the United States.
The Americans imported English wholesale, forged it to meet their own needs, then exported their own words back across the Atlantic to be incorporated in the way we speak over here. Those seemingly innocuous words caused fury at the time.

Ugly and pointless new usages appear in the media and drift into everyday conversation.


An obvious rant, tailing off in these words...

Britain is a very distinct country from the US. Not better, not worse, different. And long live that difference. That means maintaining the integrity of our own gloriously nuanced, subtle and supple version - the original version - of the English language.
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American corporate managers love their "Synergies".... I fucceen hate that when they babel on about it....

The other Americanism I hate is "networking"..... Its called making friends. And if you are "networking" with other people who are "networking" 9 times out of 10 you are both a waste of each others time.
I prefer the Yiddish Schmooze ... or is it shmooze? I can't remember. At any rate, it has a much better feel to it, sort of like the more white-bread "butter up".
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ouster, the process of firing someone

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Ouster is someone who has or was selected to forceably replace somebody.

As in the headline on January 21, 2013... "Obama's ouster, Mitt Romney has decided to cut food stamp spending despite the deepening depression."
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American corporate managers love their "Synergies".... I fucceen hate that when they babel on about it....

The other Americanism I hate is "networking"..... Its called making friends. And if you are "networking" with other people who are "networking" 9 times out of 10 you are both a waste of each others time.

I don't think anyone in American likes the word Synergy either. But that fall in a bit different catagory: the buzz word.

It just sounds like you know what you're doing, and ladder climbers and other 'new-age' business hotbodies want to sound that way.
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Old 13.07.2011, 17:34
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All of these (things) were never part of the English (or anywhere else) until the establishment of the United States.
I imagine lots of things have changed within the past 235yrs, language being among the least startling of them.
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American corporate managers love their "Synergies".... I fucceen hate that when they babel on about it....

The other Americanism I hate is "networking"..... Its called making friends. And if you are "networking" with other people who are "networking" 9 times out of 10 you are both a waste of each others time.

I don't mind the term 'networking'. It established a border between a friend, and someone you need/want to deal/work with, but otherwise would never talk to.

"Touch-base" is one that really irritates me, especially out of uni, after a friend would get their first job, and they would mention we should 'touch-base' instead of getogether or catch-up together.
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Then there's this gem of marketing genius. Apparently some 25yo Marketing major thought it would be fun to butcher the English language. The campaign sparked an outrage among English teachers and laypersons whose ears had taken to bleeding due to the pain it caused.

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The campaign sparked an outrage among English teachers and laypersons whose ears had taken to bleeding due to the pain it caused.
Thus raising the profile of the product way beyond the manufacturer's wildest dreams.

You can't get gooder than that!
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I've called on him to say it before and I'll call on him to say it again. Language, like everything, is subject to evolution.

Adapt or die.

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