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Wow you're so cool berating pwople and dreaming up your own Palestinian Mosad conspiracy theory which turned out to be completely wrong.
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Old 24.07.2011, 03:19
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It's tough keeping track of your posts on this thread. There's 36 of them....so far, almost a quarter of the total.
Please forgive me if I don't induldge you by opening your link.
By the way, your signature post (or whatever it's called) is decidedly creepy when reading this thread.
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Old 24.07.2011, 10:32
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The one on the left represents lots of right-wing Christians while the one on the right represented nobody !!!!
Or to put it another way; my imaginary friend gives me the right to kill you because you have a different imaginary friend.

Tragic situation for everybody involved, I just wish there was something one could do to help in this situation or to prevent future situations with senseless killings.
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Re: Explosion in Oslo

When I heard the news, I said to myself "Timothy McVie, Oklahoma City", which turned out to be a good call. Scandanavia has always had a small number of loony nazis.

The norwegian political forum document.no has done a great job putting together all of our man's posts there into one long document. They have just posted that he copied the american terrorist Unabomber's manifest word for word, changing only "leftist" into "multicultural Marxist". Nuff said.

Looks like there is little else to do, apart from mourn the dead and keep the nutter in prison for the rest of his life. Maybe tighten Norwegian law to make it a less free and innocent country.
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What is going on in these peoples heads. It seems that stupidity is independent of religion.
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Old 24.07.2011, 13:42
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I love the hypocrisy that this points out...


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I only hope that this incident will make non-Muslims realize that terrorism comes from more than just one side...
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Old 24.07.2011, 15:19
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The experts are obviously working hard, the police arrested six people just now, telling the journalists that it was in connection with the terrorist attack of friday.
http://www.dagbladet.no/2011/07/24/n...7-11/17437024/
They are just checking all kind of things, I probably shouldn't update this kind of details. But it's a kind of response to the man's declarations that he did it all alone (police chef said in the press).

Interestingly, he chose Lippestad, a lawyer who is active member of the socialist party whose youth he just attacked so tragically but who also defended people guilty of a racist murder in 2001. Lippestad took a couple of days of reflection before accepting. He defended the racist murders out of profesionnal ethics and because the murders admitted the murder. Today, he accepted for the same reasons: to keep this trial as democratic like anyother, which is possible as there is no disagreement about the facts. He said he hesitated because feared for his security and his familly's safety, but a democratic trial is more important to him than anything else. In a sense, he is doing excatly what the murder hates, but also risks to do what the murder wants if the latter aims at beating demoracy at its own game by transforming the trial into a propaganda plateform. This latter idea is not from me but from the murder's handbook for terror: "The arrestation is not the end but the start of another phase: propaganda" - writes the murder.

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Old 24.07.2011, 16:07
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When I heard the news, I said to myself "Timothy McVie, Oklahoma City", which turned out to be a good call. Scandanavia has always had a small number of loony nazis.

The norwegian political forum document.no has done a great job putting together all of our man's posts there into one long document. They have just posted that he copied the american terrorist Unabomber's manifest word for word, changing only "leftist" into "multicultural Marxist". Nuff said.

Looks like there is little else to do, apart from mourn the dead and keep the nutter in prison for the rest of his life. Maybe tighten Norwegian law to make it a less free and innocent country.
Right in many ways, but I oppose to downgrade the culprit to a "nutter". What he was/is in fact is a dangerous murderous terrorist. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Old 24.07.2011, 16:12
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Right in many ways, but I oppose to downgrade the culprit to a "nutter". What he was/is in fact is a dangerous murderous terrorist. Nothing more and nothing less.
He's definitely NOT a nutter, Ben laden was not declared a nutter when he did what he did and the entire muslim nation had to pay for 1 man's mistake...he have to be declared as a an extremist terrorist to be fair (if anyone still believes in the word fairness)
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Old 24.07.2011, 16:16
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Right in many ways, but I oppose to downgrade the culprit to a "nutter". What he was/is in fact is a dangerous murderous terrorist. Nothing more and nothing less.
if this man is a nutter (which i guess will be the main argument of his defense) then every murderer is a nutter too. he knew what he wanted to do, and why, and how to do it with great efficiency. the fact that he had political motives makes him a terrorist, not a nutter.
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Old 24.07.2011, 16:18
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Looks like there is little else to do, apart from mourn the dead and keep the nutter in prison for the rest of his life. Maybe tighten Norwegian law to make it a less free and innocent country.
Norway has a maximum jail term of 21 years. Though I don't think it would take too much creativity to give 91 consecutive 21 year terms. I hope.
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Nope, no added sentences.
There are great efforts in media and from the officials not to spread hate and personal anger out in the public discussion. In other words, the Norwegians do not want to give up the fundamentals of their democracy, the goal of the murderer. It's a way of winning over him.
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Old 24.07.2011, 16:44
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Nope, no added sentences.
There are great efforts in media and from the officials not to spread hate and personal anger out in the public discussion. In other words, the Norwegians do not want to give up the fundamentals of their democracy, the goal of the murderer. It's a way of winning over him.
Understandable, I see where they are coming from. Perhaps he might want to stay away from farmers in the future though. They don't take kindly to thievery, not sure where the tractor would end up with a guy like this.

Farm justice somewhere in northern Norway.
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I love the hypocrisy that this points out...




I only hope that this incident will make non-Muslims realize that terrorism comes from more than just one side...
Whilst agreeing that it is obviously not appropriate to judge all Muslims as fanatical terrorists, the thing that most disturbs me is the lengths to which extreme Muslim terrorists are prepared to go in the name of their faith. I am talking specifically about the use of men, women and children as human suicide bombers.

Incidentally, this no worse than the attrocities perpetrated by right-wing Christian terrorists. However, incidents such as the recent one in Norway seem to be more isolated.
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Old 24.07.2011, 19:57
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Re: Explosion in Oslo

I wonder what the backlash will be like if it turns out that he enjoyed playing first person shooter computer games.
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I love the hypocrisy that this points out...




I only hope that this incident will make non-Muslims realize that terrorism comes from more than just one side...
I think it would be incorrect to infer that Bin Laden represented all muslims. There were muslims along with people from many different religions that died in the towers and in all of the terrorist actions Bin Laden masterminded. It is interesting how this event has triggered the debate about whether muslims are the only ones committing terrorist acts, an argument that should have never gained any credibility from day one.

@higgybaby: first person shooter games have come under fire ever since Columbine
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I wonder what the backlash will be like if it turns out that he enjoyed playing first person shooter computer games.
It's already been confirmed he liked violent video games.
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Totally awful events, that I only found out about while driving from York to Folkestone in the UK yesterday. It was interesting how the headline changed over time (on BBC Radio 4) - from Christian Fundementalist to Norwegian Nationalist. The newspapers on Saturday (obviously unable to be as up-to-date yesterday) seemed fairly sure it was an Al-Qaeda inspired incident.

The headlines changed according to the significance of the news. While there was the possibility that this was a Christian Fundamentalist attack, then that was the important point - precisely because of Islamist terrorists. When it became clear that he was a right-wing ideology inspired nutter rather than a religious nutter, then the "nationalist" aspect became more important.

It saddens me that the religion-bashers used this as an excuse to do some more bashing. No cause is so right and good that it doesn't attract a few evil bastards to it.
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Can escape punishment

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/innenr...yYwH8.facebook

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Accused had a lot of ammo left

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/innenr...cle1666791.ece

and parts of his manifesto were copied from the Una Bomber

Policeman ( from the Police Immigration Service ) who was paid to be a guard on the island was also killed.

http://www.adressa.no/nyheter/innenr...cle1666804.ece

If you wish to participate and join the others in strengthening the chain, click on:

http://www.vg.no/nyheter/innenriks/oslobomben/lenke.php

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Whilst agreeing that it is obviously not appropriate to judge all Muslims as fanatical terrorists, the thing that most disturbs me is the lengths to which extreme Muslim terrorists are prepared to go in the name of their faith. I am talking specifically about the use of men, women and children as human suicide bombers.

Incidentally, this no worse than the attrocities perpetrated by right-wing Christian terrorists. However, incidents such as the recent one in Norway seem to be more isolated.
suicide bombings started with Tamil Tigers in Sri Lanka. They are marxists, and not muslims. It was also used by PKK in Turkey, which is a ethnic/stalinist terrorist organization, again not muslims...
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