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[...]This is so morbid to say but there was hardly anything of her on the stretcher. [...]
I thought the same thing when I saw the picture of just two guys seemingly carrying the stretcher without effort.
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I thought the same thing when I saw the picture of just two guys seemingly carrying the stretcher without effort.
I do believe that she was always pretty tiny, both in height and frame.

However, I do not think that it is at all appropriate to show pictures of her being stretchered out. It shows absolutely no sensitivity to her loved ones.
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It shows absolutely no sensitivity to her loved ones.
Like any of this circus does?

Every one of us who bought a tabloid newspaper or celebrity magazine is responsible for this young woman's death.

Meanwhile, those people who knew her and loved her are experiencing agonies few of us ghouls can even begin to understand.

And when we've moved on to the next celebrity car-crash, Amy Winehouse relegated to just another member of the "27 club", they'll still be trying to put the pieces together and trying to understand what happened to their girl.

If only they could close the magazine or turn the telly off and forget all about it like the rest of us can (and will).
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Like any of this circus does?

Every one of us who bought a tabloid newspaper or celebrity magazine is responsible for this young woman's death.

Meanwhile, those people who knew her and loved her are experiencing agonies few of us ghouls can even begin to understand.

And when we've moved on to the next celebrity car-crash, Amy Winehouse relegated to just another member of the "27 club", they'll still be trying to put the pieces together and trying to understand what happened to their girl.

If only they could close the magazine or turn the telly off and forget all about it like the rest of us can (and will).
Of course we cannot even begin to comprehend the pain that her family and loved ones are going through.

However, expressing our shock and sadness at her tragic death does not make us ghouls.
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However, expressing our shock and sadness at her tragic death does not make us ghouls.
I'm afraid it does. You are contributing to the celebrity culture which killed this young woman. You are glorifying her death. You are romanticising a life which you knew nothing about, other than what you read in the papers.

The Amy Winehouse you are mourning did not exist.

Everyone who has contributed to this thread - including me - is a ghoul.

We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
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Old 25.07.2011, 01:16
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I'm afraid it does. You are contributing to the celebrity culture which killed this young woman. You are glorifying her death. You are romanticising a life which you knew nothing about, other than what you read in the papers.

The Amy Winehouse you are mourning did not exist.

Everyone who has contributed to this thread - including me - is a ghoul.

We should all be ashamed of ourselves.
I disagree. We (or at least I) are showing our regret at the premature death of an extremely talented, yet vulnerable, young woman.
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I disagree. We (or at least I) are showing our regret at the premature death of an extremely talented, yet vulnerable, young woman.
... who died because of us and our prurient fascination with her train wreck of a life.

You killed her, Nicolaschulz. You killed her and I killed her.

And now we're building a cult around her.

It's sick, and I, for one, am thoroughly ashamed of (but not at all surprised by) the way her death is being received.
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Why are some people so bothered by others talking about and remembering people that have passed away?

People can do that. It's their freedom of expression, no? Who are these people who want everyone to be quiet on a public internet forum? If you don't like the 'circus', get off the internet, get out the house, and go for a walk to contemplate things.

I don't see why people should be deemed as awful because they say it's a sad day when someone that sparked creativity in them passed away.
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Why are some people so bothered by others talking about and remembering people that have passed away?

People can do that. It's their freedom of expression, no? Who are these people who want everyone to be quiet on a public internet forum? If you don't like the 'circus', get off the internet, get out the house, and go for a walk to contemplate things.

I don't see why people should be deemed as awful because they say it's a sad day when someone that sparked creativity in them passed away.
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Why are some people so bothered by others talking about and remembering people that have passed away?
Might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb. I tried expressing my sympathy for her family and friends earlier in the thread and got called some very unpleasant things for my trouble.

So I see no reason to hold back now.

Our culture is sick. We love troubled young people. We love it even more when they die. They conform to our sick romantic fantasy of 'live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse'.

We'll cry into our sleeves for a few days, then buy another celebrity magazine to gawk at some skinny model dying of anorexia or some tortured youth drinking himself to death and completely forget about this week's casualty of our deranged need for vicarious drama and pathos.

In a fortnight's time, this thread will be forgotten. Just you watch.

Who's next? Kate Moss? Britney Spears? That bloke out of the Libertines? The younger the better! Drugs! Alcohol! Rehab! Give us more! More! More!



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We love troubled young people. We love it even more when they die. They conform to our sick romantic fantasy of 'live fast, die young, leave a good looking corpse'.
Speak for yourself. I, for one, am not remotely romantically fantasising about her death. I simply see it for what it is; the waste of yet another tragic young life.
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Speak for yourself. I, for one, am not remotely romantically fantasising about her death. I simply see it for what it is; the waste of yet another tragic young life.
You keep telling yourself that.

Oooh! Have you seen this week's edition of Heat?!!???!!!!
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The analysis of what caused her eventual demise, on Saturday 23 July, aged 27, will be dissected minutely over the coming weeks. But, said Charles-Ridler, those who peered into her life should also take a moment to look at their own.
"Yes she did this to herself, yes she was self-destructive, but she was a victim too," he said. "We all have to take a bit of responsibility, us the public, the paparazzi. She was a star, but I want people to remember that she was also just a girl."
From here.
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Re: Amy Winehouse found found dead in flat

Shame..ive never seen this video..poor dumb girl
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poor dumb girl
You what??
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Amy was definitely not dumb. Latterly she may have wished to shun the limelight but few people who enrol with the Sylvia Young Theatre School are shrinking violets. I am in no way condoning the intrusive behaviour of the media and journalists but, sadly, as a talented and sensitive soul, it would appear that she simply could not handle the fame, especially when it arrived so quickly.
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I am in no way condoning the intrusive behaviour of the media and journalists
Every time we buy a magazine or newspaper we are condoning - and paying for - their intrusive behaviour.

Even now, the press are milking her death for sales: there are pictures of the urn containing her ashes on the front page of Blick, photographs of drunken fans outside her house in the Mail, even the BBC has a weird video of Ms Winehouse playing with a baby mouse, boxed out of her tree, on its "news" website.

As long as we keep buying their wares, they will keep hounding celebrities to death on our behalf.
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There are some interesting words from Chapelle about that world.

We can't comprehend it because we are not there. Once you are Famous you cannot become Unfamous.. you can be Infamous, but not unfamous. And that must mean so much pressure on you.... :S

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You killed her, Nicolaschulz. You killed her and I killed her.
I would not confess on an online forum in case word gets back to English police. Also selling out your accomplice online like that is just plain wrong.

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Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Don't let his death go to waste. Let us sinners sin in peace.
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I would not confess on an online forum in case word gets back to English police. Also selling out your accomplice online like that is just plain wrong.

Jesus died on the cross for our sins. Don't let his death go to waste. Let us sinners sin in peace.
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