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Old 30.07.2011, 23:19
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Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post this story, but since the child in question came down with symptoms once he returned to the United States, I felt this qualifies as "international news" rather than "Swiss news."

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Measles Outbreak Triggered by Unvaccinated Child

MONDAY, March 22 (HealthDay News) — What began as a family trip to Switzerland in 2008 ended up as a public health nightmare in California.

The family’s 7-year-old boy, who was intentionally unvaccinated against measles, was exposed to the virus while traveling in Europe. When he returned home to San Diego, he unknowingly exposed a total of 839 people, and an additional 11 unvaccinated children contracted the disease.

Three of those infected were babies, too young to have yet received the measles vaccines, and one of the babies was hospitalized for three days with a 106-degree fever, according to a report to be published in the April issue of Pediatrics.

“Measles is just a plane ride away, including places like Switzerland and the U.K.,” said one of the researchers, Dr. Jane Seward, deputy director of viral diseases at the National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

“This study serves as a reminder that measles can be a very serious disease that can lead to severe complications and death, and that the measles, mumps, rubella [MMR] vaccine is highly effective and the best way to prevent measles. It’s also a reminder that people who choose not to vaccinate don’t just put themselves and their children at risk, but also their communities, which includes infants who are too young to immunize,” she said.

This 2008 outbreak was the first in San Diego since 1991, according to the report. Before the introduction of the measles vaccine in 1963, as many as 500 children died each year from the measles, and nearly 50,000 were hospitalized annually in the United States because of the virus, according to background information in the report.

In recent years, however, the virus has resurged as many parents choose not to vaccinate their children, often because of fears about serious side effects. In fact, a recent study from the University of Michigan found that even among those who do vaccinate, more than half are concerned about serious side effects. Many of these fears stem a reported link between the MMR vaccine and autism. This link has been disproved in numerous studies, however.
http://news.health.com/2010/03/22/me...cinated-child/

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Old 30.07.2011, 23:47
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Yep. I remember reading about this when it happened.
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Old 31.07.2011, 10:53
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

The US is not without measles, not vacinating is a risk, especially if travelling to Europe.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Measles

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I'm not sure if this is the correct forum to post this story, but since the child in question came down with symptoms once he returned to the United States, I felt this qualifies as "international news" rather than "Swiss news."



http://news.health.com/2010/03/22/me...cinated-child/

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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Hardly the end of the world, is it?
It's not as if smallpox has made a major return ...
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

So a load of kids on another continent got measles.

And this is news because...?
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Because it can be a very serious killer and crippling disease- and that many people, following the Andrew Wakefield 1988 debacle about MMR allegedly causing autism - so many parents are choosing not to vaccine, and the disease is making a terrible come-back, including in Switzerland. Even though Wakefield was struck off in May 2010 as he was proven to have taken payments to prove the link, and against his research being clearly discredited.

Meningitis and permanent brain damage, deathness, encephalitis, pneumonia, and death - which can all be prevented with MMR vaccine. But you need a 90% take-up for it to be truly effective.
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Like diarrhoea, AIDS and malaria, then?

Where are the threads about those?
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Because as I tried to explain, there is a big come back of a dangerous disease that had almost disappeared in the Western world, but has made a big come back due to the low MMR take-up following the Wakefield publication. And because people who go to countries where malaria or indeed diahrroea in endemic, will a/ be aware of the dangers b/ take preventitive measures. Whereas, as the article underlines, tourists and other visitors to Switzerland, and other parts of Europe, are totally unaware of this danger- so it is worth pointing it out. Why today, in particular, I agree I don't know.

Many members here have young children, and if they are at all like my daughter and her OH, they might still be very concerned about MMR vaccination. That guy Wakefield did so much damage - it took 10 years for his research to be totally discredited, and the 'doubt' is still there in many parents minds. The dangers of measles have long been proven, sadly - and yet, a totally discredited link to autism, still causes many parents to not vaccinate. The take up is too low to really protect our communities. In the UK, because of the massive return of the disease, the MMR should now be done twice, to be really effective.
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

The efficacy of any vaccination is not 100% so that it's only really effective when everyone gets vaccinated. The anti-vaxer crowd who so ignorantly continue to believe that the shots are related to autism should be forced to vaccinate as a matter of public health since it hasn't been proven not to mention many could die just from their unjustified fear that the vaccinations might cause their child to develop some autistic traits. I get kinda vociferous over this topic since people are too young to remember what polio did to the young or measles.

It's simple, diseases that are preventable and pose a mortal risk to a large swath of the public, should not be left to the discretion of the parents as to whether or not to vaccinate. Unfortunately, it's a hot potato and nobody wants to incur the wrath of the folks with autistic children who still want to believe that there is a direct causal relationship.

In Scandinavia, the H1N1 vaccine appears to have caused a high incidence of narcolepsy in young children. They haven't proven the link, but there is a strong correlation. However, when the risk is too great to not vaccinate, resulting in the potential death of thousands, the few cases of narcolepsy, if ever proven to be caused by the vaccine, is a small price to pay...unless, of course, it happens to your child. If it would have happened to my child, you bet I'd be angry and beside myself, but to keep children from vaccinations of that and other diseases would be utter madness.
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Old 31.07.2011, 16:39
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

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Like diarrhoea, AIDS and malaria, then?

Where are the threads about those?
For those of us in the comfortable western world, diarrhoea* and malaria are unlikely to affect us. AIDS isn't vacinnable (?) against, measles is. There's no reason for anyone who lives and travels within the first world to catch measles, except as a result of acting on fear as a result of extremely irresponsible journalists fanning the flames generated by a silly man.

So that's why there aren't threads about those three killer diseases.

What puzzles me is why a 3 year old story is being resurrected now.

* In a life threatening manner.
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

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Like diarrhoea, AIDS and malaria, then?

Where are the threads about those?
Measles are highly contagious via airborne infection and spread really quickly. (Malaria --> mosquitos, HIV --> sex/blood, diarrhea --> lacking hygiene)

Whenever there's a measle case at the Uni (two in the last year) alert emails are sent out because one sick person could infect a whole lecture class.
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

I had measles as a kid as did Mr Organ and also many friends and we all survived
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Measles is more serious than chicken pox, I was vaccinated against it and I know the vaccine is mandatory in my home country. It is more serious because it can cause panencephalitis and pneumonia (or bronchitis) and other complications, still mortality is extremle low, 0.1-0.3%.
What I fail to see is why these are news? This is hardly an erradicataed health problem. I agree with DB, small pox would make headlines...
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diarrhea --> lacking hygiene)
Hmm I would say more than lack of hygiene is being exposed to poorly prepared food as well as lack of hygiene, sometimes this lack of hygiene is also due to third parties...I think the term is hand-mouth diseases? Please correct me if Im wrong
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Everything's not so black and white. There's a reason some US parents are nervous about vaccines. (http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-a...al_report1.pdf) 1 in 150 US children in the US have autism. That's a HUGE amount of children. The Swiss vaccination schedule is much more reasonable (http://www.bag.admin.ch/ekif/04423/0...x.html?lang=de), in the US, the kids get so many shots (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/spec-grp...sch-0-6yrs.pdf). I don't believe vaccinations are the sole cause, but we have a lot more toxins allowed here than elsewhere (rbgh, harsher pesticides, gmos, fire retardants, etc). I think it's a combination of so much stuff. We vaccinate, but we don't follow the US schedule. We're not getting everything and are spreading them out. We'll probably end up with a schedule closer to the Swiss one so the kids will be pretty up to date when/if we move.
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Everything's not so black and white. There's a reason some US parents are nervous about vaccines. (http://www.rescuepost.com/files/gr-a...al_report1.pdf) 1 in 150 US children in the US have autism. That's a HUGE amount of children. The Swiss vaccination schedule is much more reasonable (http://www.bag.admin.ch/ekif/04423/0...x.html?lang=de), in the US, the kids get so many shots (http://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/spec-grp...sch-0-6yrs.pdf). I don't believe vaccinations are the sole cause, but we have a lot more toxins allowed here than elsewhere (rbgh, harsher pesticides, gmos, fire retardants, etc). I think it's a combination of so much stuff. We vaccinate, but we don't follow the US schedule. We're not getting everything and are spreading them out. We'll probably end up with a schedule closer to the Swiss one so the kids will be pretty up to date when/if we move.
The US is also vaccine-happy. They want to vaccinate us for everything even if it's not necessary. We also want to get vaccinated for things that are all hype and no real threat (H1N1 for example).
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I had measles as a kid as did Mr Organ and also many friends and we all survived
So did I, but I know others who didn't survive. If all it takes, is a simple vaccine, then I am all for having mass immunisation to prevent the a situation that has killed many, many people in the past.

From a selfish point of view, my understanding is that those of us who have had measles in the past, are still at risk of catching the infection again, or shingles. I do not want that either.
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From a selfish point of view, my understanding is that those of us who have had measles in the past, are still at risk of catching the infection again, or shingles. I do not want that either.

Shingles is related to chickenpox, not measles, I believe.
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Shingles is related to chickenpox, not measles, I believe.
You are 100% correct.
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Re: Unvaccinated child catches measles in Switzerland

Oops, sorry part of my post disappeared - I meant shingles, as being another disease that I don't want to catch, with it being a version of a childhood disease ( chickenpox) that children can also now be immunised against. :-(
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