He-he, yes, the density in some areas is up but the bus population is also down as well as the fact that the population is much more dependent on having to commute all the time due to the destruction of local business and the requirements to work for centralised big business. All of these factors put together as well as a myriad of others actually make the place feel much more crowded than it actually is.
I suggest coming and joining us here in Switzerland.

have quick peek here. Thats the Greater London Council ..............

It's a pretty safe bet, seeing as fire engine crews have been attacked (http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/au...fforts-attacks).

Your link is broken.

However you will find a much more interesting history of what is considdered Greater London here in this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greater_London) but it still has not seen a doubling of population since it was created. Nuff said, this is drifting off topic.

Thanks to the wonders of modern science, I've now 'beamed' myself over and joined you

that's cos gangs were given unlimited free bus travel to go around and commit crimes all over london instead of just on their turf.

Bad case of lastworditis there colin the link is
www.london.gov.uk/
and you dont need wiki anything to know what the GLC is.

So where is the tear gas, the plastic pellets and the water cannon that Zurich police bring out for every little scuffle? Combined with rounding up pockets of rioters and shipping them away from the action, that should calm things, no? I guess not enough police or resources...

no

“Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.” -Yoda, a long long time ago

After the police were accused of being too tough during the student protests, they are too scared to do anything now.

All football matches in London postponed including the England v Holland friendly at Wembley tomorrow.

The last word is that you're a nitpicking bunch

Yep the BNP asked for a postponement cos theyre going to be a bit busy that night.

Just plucked a couple of quotes out of the thread (minus names, not picking on anyone).

If any blame is to be put on government the above two quotes sum it up. Disenfranchisement, through coddling and hand holding. The government owes you a job- that's why we pay taxes. This mentality has crippled both the government and the people under it.

Shit parenting, indeed, is at the root of it all. And to expect government to take a hand there is simple folly.

On another note, as a man born and bred in one of the former 13 Colonies, for all the flak U.S. cops get for their heavy handedness, I bet not one person in the affected areas of England would make a peep (other than the thieves and arsonists) if a few U.S. Swat Teams were flown in there, with a proper compliment of U.S. arms.

Apparently the Home Secretary has not authorised them for use outside of Northern Ireland, making the use of them in England illegal.

Un-effing-believable. No tear gas either?

Generally this is an incredible ineffective and short termist way to police. To effectively wage war on huge tracts of the community tends not to solve much. However perhaps this is an exception.

I just read that the Wetherspoons in Woolwich was set ablaze. For those of you who think this is a result of politics and spending cuts then where is the sense or logic in that?

Nope no tear gas either from what I'm led to believe. Just riot shields and truncheons, plus the odd mounted policeman - that's it.

maybe using real bullets will be an effective long term solution. i don't think it would be a great loss to society or the economy if they disappeared.