View Poll Results: Why are these riots happening (vote for the closest to your beliefs) |
The Duggan shooting is the primary cause of the riots
|    | 4 | 4.12% |
The riots are caused because of social injustice
|    | 9 | 9.28% |
The riots are caused because of too much "justice"/benefits etc
|    | 5 | 5.15% |
The riots are spontaneous/opportunistic, just criminals seeing an opportunity.
|    | 75 | 77.32% |
The riots are caused by too much immigration
|    | 4 | 4.12% |  | | | 
10.08.2011, 22:13
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | Sorry, but nobody has been talking about opening workhouses now really have they? No.
But if people are going to claim benefits, which the rest of society has to pay for through employment, what is wrong with them positively contributing to the community in which they live in in some way in return for their handouts? Perhaps helping with youth community programmes, helping keep their areas tidy and clean, helping the more vulnerable or less able in society? There are loads of things that people who supposedly could not get a job to do to make a difference to their environment and those around them. I genuinely can't understand what would be wrong with that. | | | | | ...........
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Reason: fixed it! Quote tags were messed up in the previous post. You can edit this to put your own text back in.
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10.08.2011, 22:13
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: |  | | | Just talked to my daughter in London. She said one of her colleagues said that in Clapham every business had been smashed and looted apart from... WATERSTONES it would be hilarious if it wasn't so tragic. | | | | | Great quote from Waterstone's employee on the news: "We'll stay open, if they steal some books they might learn something"
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10.08.2011, 22:25
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots....
Hasn´t HM the Queen addressed the nation yet to quell the rioting ?
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10.08.2011, 22:28
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | Hasn´t HM the Queen addressed the nation yet to quell the rioting ? | | | | | You may get a message of sympathy if lots of people were killed | 
10.08.2011, 22:45
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10.08.2011, 22:47
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For once I wish the Press would find that poor kid, making sure he is OK and finding out the true story of who he is and what happened?
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10.08.2011, 22:52
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20min did a interview with the guy who shot the video above http://www.20min.ch/news/dossier/lon...fen---21543055 | 
10.08.2011, 22:54
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: |  | | | For once I wish the Press would find that poor kid, making sure he is OK and finding out the true story of who he is and what happened? | | | | | Should not be too difficult to find: | Quote: |  | | | first-year Kaplan University student .. London Umno Club president Dzuhair Hanafiah, who identified the victim | | | | | | Quote: |  | | | Mohd Asyraf Raziq Rosli | | | | | got injured as he went to buy food to break his fast.
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: |  | | | For once I wish the Press would find that poor kid, making sure he is OK and finding out the true story of who he is and what happened? | | | | | They have. He's Ashraf Haziq
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10.08.2011, 22:58
| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... Pictured in his hospital bed: The victim of sickening riot robbery had jaw smashed before thugs rifled through his rucksack - Student robbed while bleeding only arrived in England a month ago
- Police identify one suspect who allegedly mugged injured Ashraf Haziq
- Well-wishers organise online fund to fly student's parents to UK to visit son
By Daily Mail Reporter
Last updated at 4:48 PM on 10th August 2011
The injured student set upon by callous looters who had pretended to help him is recovering in hospital and awaiting surgery on a broken jaw.
Malaysian accountancy student Mohammed Ashraf Haziq, 20, was robbed in broad daylight during riots in Hackney by a gang who had pretended to help him to his feet.
Instead, the robbers stole a mobile phone and wallet from Mr Haziq's rucksack as he stood heavily bleeding, in a video which symbolised the lawless thuggery of the London riots.  Recovering: Mr Haziq is seen in his hospital bed at Royal London Hospital, where he is awaiting surgery on a broken jaw after the sickening attack
Riot victim: Accountancy student Mohammed Ashraf Haziq, 20, had only arrived in Britain a month ago. Here he is pictured at home in Malaysia. Right he is sitting with his eight-year-old brother Mohammed Fatiri  Injuries: Mr Haziq still has facial swelling after the attack and can be seen missing several front teeth after having his jaw broken
The young student - who only arrived in the country a month ago - was walking in Hackney to see a friend when he was set upon by thugs who broke his jaw.
Seconds later he was rounded on by a second passing gang who at first helped him to his feet but then brazenly took items from his bag.
Mr Haziq, a first-year accountancy student at Kaplan Financial college, is now recovering from the attack in Royal London Hospital and is said to be in 'high spirits' despite having to eat through a drip due to his injuries.
It is thought he will have a metal plate fixed in his jaw after undergoing surgery.
Consular officer Wan Azim also visited Mr Haziq at hospital, said: 'He is doing okay but his jaw is fractured or broken.
'His face was very swollen. I asked if he had any other injuries, but he said not.
'He can't speak very well and I'm told he will need surgery. He can't eat at the moment so he's being fed through a drip.' | The following 7 users would like to thank for this useful post: | | 
10.08.2011, 23:00
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: |  | | | Sent by DB by pm, who is on the naughty step again for having reached his post target - for once it's not me, lol, because the sun has been shining all day. | | | | | Cap, Odile, posting cap. Don't be giving the man ideas!
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10.08.2011, 23:03
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Lol DB reads the daily mail. I always knew he was a facist fanny.
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10.08.2011, 23:04
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Thanks for posting that Odile (via DB). That has to be the most sickening of all the heinous crimes and images to date. Thank goodness that, at least, kindness has prevailed and I hope that he is soon reunited with his parents and makes a full recovery.
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10.08.2011, 23:07
| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | Thanks for posting that Odile (via DB). That has to be the most sickening of all the heinous crimes and images to date. Thank goodness that, at least, kindness has prevailed and I hope that he is soon reunited with his parents and makes a full recovery. | | | | | I'm pretty sure I could think of worse crimes than having one's PSP stolen.
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10.08.2011, 23:10
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | I'm pretty sure I could think of worse crimes than having one's PSP stolen. | | | | | I don't know what a PSP is. However, having your jaw broken and then being robbed by those vile thugs who pretended to go to his assistance counts pretty highly in my score of heinous crimes.
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10.08.2011, 23:10
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10.08.2011, 23:14
| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | I don't know what a PSP is. However, having your jaw broken and then being robbed by those vile thugs who pretended to go to his assistance counts pretty highly in my score of heinous crimes. | | | | | The Norway massacre was a heinous crime. This is a not streetwise kid in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting beaten up and mugged.
I'm pretty sure this happens every weekend several times...it just isn't caught on camera usually.
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10.08.2011, 23:16
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I guess police leave will be canceled and there will be night courts to deal with those arrested ( all of which will add to the millions ).
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| | Re: The Tottenham Riots.... | Quote: | |  | | | The Norway massacre was a heinous crime. This is a not streetwise kid in the wrong place at the wrong time and getting beaten up and mugged.
I'm pretty sure this happens every weekend several times...it just isn't caught on camera usually. | | | | | Oh for goodness sake, I am talking about this incident in the context of the UK riots, not on a world scale! (and you know it) |
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