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View Poll Results: Why are these riots happening (vote for the closest to your beliefs)
The Duggan shooting is the primary cause of the riots 4 4.12%
The riots are caused because of social injustice 9 9.28%
The riots are caused because of too much "justice"/benefits etc 5 5.15%
The riots are spontaneous/opportunistic, just criminals seeing an opportunity. 75 77.32%
The riots are caused by too much immigration 4 4.12%
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Old 12.08.2011, 23:21
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Wandsworth council have been the first to serve and eviction notice to a woman whose son was convicted of looting. Will be interesting to see how this one plays out, going to be a long process and wonder if it will be successful in the end.
It is unlikely that a family would be evicted on the strength of one incident. They would probably have had other tenancy issues in the past such as anti-social behaviour orders or serious rent arrears.

If the family is evicted, they will have to be re-housed elsewhere. Eviction does not solve the problem.
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Awesome place. Far too good for rioters.
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Rioting is fun.
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Old 13.08.2011, 01:36
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I would give anything to live there...it even has its own wind power generators.
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Old 13.08.2011, 05:14
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I would give anything to live there...it even has its own wind power generators.
The Clingstone house in Rhodes Island... The current owner paid $3,600 for it in 1961!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/07/ga...lingstone.html
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The Clingstone house in Rhodes Island... The current owner paid $3,600 for it in 1961!

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/07/ga...lingstone.html
Just make sure you marry the right person, could be stuck for days in a storm!
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Old 13.08.2011, 07:04
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Apparently not shown on UK TV



Greed is the root of all evil.


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/pe...as-the-bottom/
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Old 13.08.2011, 10:55
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This is probably the worst thing I have ever read. Most journos wouldn't get a friendly word from me at the bar, this guy'd get a smack.

He was invited to dinner at a wealthy household, fed and watered and was a party to some class humour and he decides to use his stubby little pulpit to berate his hosts in the only way they cannot respond to? And they're rude?

And the MPs? The expenses scandal? I say to MPs:"go for it" whatever they claimed was tiny in comparison to the expenses of businessmen, and they have to do a job too.

And have we forgotten about the state of honesty in journalism lately? If it wasn't all the MPs and wasn't all the journalists why are we speaking about the former rather than the latter?

Poor telegraph. Soon you'll just have Hoppy left.
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Old 13.08.2011, 11:11
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This is probably the worst thing I have ever read. Most journos wouldn't get a friendly word from me at the bar, this guy'd get a smack.

He was invited to dinner at a wealthy household, fed and watered and was a party to some class humour and he decides to use his stubby little pulpit to berate his hosts in the only way they cannot respond to? And they're rude?

And the MPs? The expenses scandal? I say to MPs:"go for it" whatever they claimed was tiny in comparison to the expenses of businessmen, and they have to do a job too.

And have we forgotten about the state of honesty in journalism lately? If it wasn't all the MPs and wasn't all the journalists why are we speaking about the former rather than the latter?

Poor telegraph. Soon you'll just have Hoppy left.
Hoppy and ME !!
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Old 13.08.2011, 11:12
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A very interesting article about the role of faith - or lack of it - amongst the rioters, compared to the victims of their crimes: UK Riots and the Haroon Jahan death: the legacy of a society that believes in nothing.

It's very Daily Mail, so you might want to skip some of the more reactionary paragraphs, but the writer makes some very good points along the way.

It will be of particular interest to those dickheads who seem to think that these riots were perpetrated by immigrants - particularly Muslims (yes, FrankS, I'm talking about you).
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Old 13.08.2011, 11:25
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Hoppy and ME !!
Hoppy, you and your hero
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Dear Hoppy,

I would like to explain to you why you get no sense out of the English people here on the Forum even when you offer perfectly understandable logic that even a child can understand to support your arguments. It is, because deep down, the British feel insecure and so when we are away from home we club together in a sort of gang-like football team's "firm". It is then that the group mentality cancels out all logical thought and we appear, to outsiders, as just a bunch of sneering thugs. The epitomy of this was when some callous woman disturbed the rest a poor defenceless retired old man, sat at home on his balcony on a Sunday morning enjoying his well-deserved rest, only have have a British "lady" drop bottles loudly in the recyling plant near where he lived to wake him from his slumbers and nearly shatter his eardrums. Understandably, this old and feeble retired gentleman came out to remonstrate and explain the law. On having this reported to this forum we saw the "firm" mentality (there for self-preservation you understand) come to the fore and I am thankful that this frail old gentleman was not "done in" by an assembly of denizens of this forum. I think it came close.

I am British and I understand this way of bonding together but I am sensitive to the idea that this does not readily lead to intelligent debate so I would ask you to understand the situation and realise why you do not get the intelligent and reasonable consideration to your very well thought out arguments that you would expect from British people, some of whom are quite well educated.

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Very interesting Young Peoples' Question Time last night on BBC 3.
Did anybody watch it?
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Old 13.08.2011, 17:20
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This is probably the worst thing I have ever read. Most journos wouldn't get a friendly word from me at the bar, this guy'd get a smack.

He was invited to dinner at a wealthy household, fed and watered and was a party to some class humour and he decides to use his stubby little pulpit to berate his hosts in the only way they cannot respond to? And they're rude?

And the MPs? The expenses scandal? I say to MPs:"go for it" whatever they claimed was tiny in comparison to the expenses of businessmen, and they have to do a job too.

And have we forgotten about the state of honesty in journalism lately? If it wasn't all the MPs and wasn't all the journalists why are we speaking about the former rather than the latter?

Poor telegraph. Soon you'll just have Hoppy left.
This is quite funny though the list is growing; through the forum I am gathering names= Hoppypedia, 'No post complete without a youtube Hoppy', Hoppy-Huff post Now the Telegraph. It seems that I now have quite a range from left to right. Where are all the other newspapers I mention and the government library papers? I have had messages to please stop posting, please stop quoting stuff, to stop digging and I get accused of not reading?

Thanks RB!
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Old 13.08.2011, 17:34
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This is probably the worst thing I have ever read. Most journos wouldn't get a friendly word from me at the bar, this guy'd get a smack.

He was invited to dinner at a wealthy household, fed and watered and was a party to some class humour and he decides to use his stubby little pulpit to berate his hosts in the only way they cannot respond to? And they're rude?

And the MPs? The expenses scandal? I say to MPs:"go for it" whatever they claimed was tiny in comparison to the expenses of businessmen, and they have to do a job too.

And have we forgotten about the state of honesty in journalism lately? If it wasn't all the MPs and wasn't all the journalists why are we speaking about the former rather than the latter?

Poor telegraph. Soon you'll just have Hoppy left.
Um, you missed something Economisto (and so did I!) I just read back through the posts and Odile actually quotes the Telegraph article before me, so hats off to Odile, but how come I am the focus of your Ire?

It's back one page #780

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Also- (I never thought I'd totally agree with this guy):

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/pe...as-the-bottom/
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Old 13.08.2011, 17:46
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Look up Peter Osborne's column re UK Society being rotten at BOTH top and bottom. Food for thought.
Here again Economisto- how come none of us noticed this? You know what it happening - some of us are just ganging up on each other (get Hoppy?) and of course the usually gang chime in with thanks and rllling smileys. But we not paying attention to those little voices who actually speak a lot of sense.

I am so sorry Odile, I just posted without reading back through the posts. Green blobbies coming your way!
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