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Re: Are the London riots comparable to those in Egypt and the Middle East?

To quote the definitive twitter answer


QUOTE:The youth of the middle-east are rioting for freedom and human rights, but the youth of London are rioting for a 42 inch plasma screen TV

IMHO, the situation is disgusting and a sad reflection on the state of the UK. Accepted there still are, and have always been problems of equality, but trashing your own back-yard is really not the way forward.

Whilst Social Media, e.g Twitter YouTube and other new-er technologies can be used to distribute information in a positive way, they can also be used to grossly misrepresent the actions of the Police, a fact that has scared the paralysed the Authorities into for the most part inaction.

This BBC article cheered me up somewhat

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14472567
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Is the "Uprising" in London similar to those that happened in Egypt and the Middle east?
No. They are like the riots in the French banlieues some years ago. A group of mostly muslim immigrants attributes their own failure in life to perceived racism and turns to senseless violence, while the people in Egypt, Syria and Tunisia (not so sure of Lybia) originally* stood up for human rights, self-determination and personal freedom.



*seems like the Muslim brothers are taking over Egypt now.
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A group of mostly muslim immigrants attributes their own failure in life to perceived racism and turns to senseless violence
I think you'll find that the Muslim immigrants in London are the ones trying to prevent the senseless violence.

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No. They are like the riots in the French banlieues some years ago. A group of mostly muslim immigrants attributes their own failure in life to perceived racism and turns to senseless violence, while the people in Egypt, Syria and Tunisia (not so sure of Lybia) originally* stood up for human rights, self-determination and personal freedom.



*seems like the Muslim brothers are taking over Egypt now.
People like you makes me sick.....the like of you are the ones that resulted in so much hatred and violence in the world
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Re: Are the London riots comparable to those in Egypt and the Middle East?

FrankS: You might want to read this before you spout your ill-informed and unnecessarily provocative drivel.
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People like you makes me sick.....the like of you are the ones that resulted in so much hatred and violence in the world
yeah, people who believe in empirical evidence are dirty bastards. Let's all close our eyes and turn to ignorant political correctness. Reading and understanding posts is overrated, too.
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yeah, people who believe in empirical evidence are dirty bastards. Let's all close our eyes and turn to ignorant political correctness. Reading and understanding posts is overrated, too.
What empirical evidence?, we're trying to give you enough evidence that it got nothing to do with race nor religion but you blatantly insists it does.......so try to grow up and use some brain mate
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yeah, people who believe in empirical evidence are dirty bastards. Let's all close our eyes and turn to ignorant political correctness. Reading and understanding posts is overrated, too.
You haven't a clue what you're talking about, have you?

Who, exactly, do you think is rioting in England this week? The Pakistanis? The Bangladeshis? The Turks?

Come on, spit it out and let's see your evidence.
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What empirical evidence?, we're trying to give you enough evidence that it got nothing to do with race nor religion but you blatantly insists it does.......so try to grow up and use some brain mate
No, you have just not understood that saying "most rioters are immigrants" is different from saying "most immigrants are rioters".
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You haven't a clue what you're talking about, have you?

Who, exactly, do you think is rioting in England this week? The Pakistanis? The Bangladeshis? The Turks?

Come on, spit it out and let's see your evidence.
He just can't get over it i think.......another manipulated mind by all the political / media fear propaganda.
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No, you have just not understood that saying "most rioters are immigrants" is different from saying "most immigrants are rioters".
Unfortunately for you, in England this week, neither statement is true.
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No, you have just not understood that saying "most rioters are immigrants" is different from saying "most immigrants are rioters".
What muslims got to do with it anyway....why you just jumped in slamming the regular "blame it on the muslims" line......these are just outlawed rioters...wether black, white, muslim, christian, jew, aethist...... DO NOT ACT IN SUCH A XENOPHOBIC WAY....end of
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Re: Are the London riots comparable to those in Egypt and the Middle East?

I don't get the reactions to Frank's post. Is that crappy US over-correctness creeping into "our" tiny Suisse? He named things as they are from his point of view. Of course You can't hear them from TV these days, but it doesn't make them less correct. It is very sad what happened to those 3 men protecting their neighbors and families, and it show how complex world we live in. But it doesn't contradict what he said in my eyes.
If You have facts like statistics of rioter's religion / nationality / country of birth of their parents, then please provide them.
To me it's quite clear what kind of social group is major in these events. And composition of this social group within major GB cities is not mystery either.
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Re: Are the London riots comparable to those in Egypt and the Middle East?

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Unfortunately for you, in England this week, neither statement is true.
As much as I hate to agree with anything DB has to say, here he is absolutely spot on. I fail to see what immigration has to do with the riots.
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I don't get the reactions to Frank's post. Is that crappy US over-correctness creeping into "our" tiny Suisse? He named things as they are from his point of view. Of course You can't hear them from TV these days, but it doesn't make them less correct. It is very sad what happened to those 3 men protecting their neighbors and families, and it show how complex world we live in. But it doesn't contradict what he said in my eyes.
If You have facts like statistics of rioter's religion / nationality / country of birth of their parents, then please provide them.
To me it's quite clear what kind of social group is major in these events. And composition of this social group within major GB cities is not mystery either.
A little light reading - and plenty of pictures - for you chaps to enjoy (and if you want to accuse the Daily Mail of political correctness, there really is no hope for either of you):

Found guilty.

A few more on trial.

Caught on camera.

Still think it's a Muslim problem, eh?
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It's definitely NOT the same, but i think it pointed a serious problem in the British society which can trigger an uprising in the near future...just my thoughts
ETHIOPIA. The African Union today adopted a unilateral resolution to deploy army troops and care packages to England as looting and violence spread from London to other major cities. Spokesperson Charity Khumalo said “We can no longer stand by while these savages tear themselves apart.”
The AU, meeting today in an emergency session to discuss the ongoing rioting in the UK, has declared that they will do “everything in their power to help bring civilisation to England”.
“It’s just so sad, you know?” said Khumalo, speaking from the organisation’s HQ in Addis Ababa. “Sitting here and watching them on TV while their society implodes. We cannot in good conscience remain idle and let it happen.”
The AU has announced a range of initiatives that Africans can get involved with to help alleviate the misery of the English.
“For instance, we have launched an ‘Adopt an English child’ programme,” Khumalo explained, showing journalists brochures featuring the faces of English kids. “If you donate a mere R50 a month, you can see to it that sweet little Johnny from Peckham receives a basic education, a pack of condoms and a pair of pimpin’ Nikes.”
Khumalo also said that the AU would be parachuting in dentists along with army troops as part of a ‘Feel better about yourselves, Brits!’ initiative.
“You can understand why they’re turning on each other,” the spokesperson told journalists. “You look in the mirror and you see teeth untouched by modern dentistry. It’s heartbreaking enough to make anyone put a brick through a Starbucks.”
The organisation also plans to air-drop care packages on major UK cities.
“Vegetables, mainly,” Khumalo confirmed. “We’re sending them vegetables and toothpaste.”
The AU’s flagship event, however, will be a star-studded rock concert to be held in Johannesburg, with all proceeds going towards the establishment of mobile libraries around the UK. Artists ranging from Mafikizolo to Steve Hofmeyr have pledged to perform at the show.
“As a humanitarian, it’s the least I can do,” Hofmeyr said yesterday. “I look at those photos of the adorable little beasts knifing each other in fights over looted X-Boxes and I want to hug them and give them a nice hot cup of Milo.”
Meanwhile, the week’s events has seen terrified South Africans in London and Manchester packing their bags for home.
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Is the "Uprising" in London similar to those that happened in Egypt and the Middle east? Can we even call it an uprising? If it has happened in London and the UK, isn't it possible anywhere now?....Should all the governments use harsh measures to quell this??

I almost fill that the "world will end in 2012", if it ever happens, will probably be linked to some sort of massive protest, rather than terrorism nuclear war etc....

Check out what reuters has to say about this.!!!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...77901H20110810
NO, as it in case of Tunisia was against the dictatorial rule of a corrupt family clan, and a "démodé" old state party. And as it was in case of Egypt, the rebellion against a senile dementia-ridden President and the rule of a rulership in charge in Egypt since 1952. In Jordan, as a result of some riots, King Abdullah II reacted by declaring that he just as Mohammed VI in Morocco, in future will appoint the leader of the largest party in parliament with the building of a coalition government.

It indeed is unfortunate that Colonel Khaddafi in Libya and Dr Assad in Syria try to persevere. Strangely enough, they by their methods now undo all the positive things they have done before.
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It's definitely NOT the same, but i think it pointed a serious problem in the British society which can trigger an uprising in the near future...just my thoughts
Unlikely. The yoof are not politicised enough, and don't care enough to turn their street power into a cohesive force.
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Re: Are the London riots comparable to those in Egypt and the Middle East?

Riots have started in Bern,

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No I don't think that the level of force n the Middle East can be compared to the UK. However there are some similarities when it comes to corruption in government- who is really doing the looting in the UK, Surely this MP and others (I don't care which party) should be immediately arrested and thrown in jail? He's a barrister so he really should know better.

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