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Occupy America

It seems the the occupy wall st. protests have spread to most major cities throughout the U.S and one was even held in London the other day. Is this the beginning of a revolution against our corporate banking controlled society? I sure hope so. Thomas Jefferson was right.




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Meh, they just want some "London riot" action.

If there are no blazing buildings and overturned cars they're not doing it right...

Even Zurich managed to throw around bicycle saddles when they were rioting a few weeks back.

2/10 for effort.
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Meh, they just want some "London riot" action.

If there are no blazing buildings and overturned cars they're not doing it right...

Even Zurich managed to throw around bicycle saddles when they were rioting a few weeks back.

2/10 for effort.

But that was really just some dumbed down hooligan riot. This is much different. There are no riots as of yet but "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -John F. Kennedy
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Its just the Tin Foil Hat brigade, isn't it? The 9/11 conspiracy theorists and those who think The Illuminati run the world etc
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Re: Occupy America

From the top of my head:

I always wish I had the time to attend riots...

Too bad I have to work instead and be a productive member of society!



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Sorry for the OT. I have a bit of hard time with street protesters in general, and I am already having a long day at 9am - don't mean to troll. Have a good day everyone!
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From the top of my head:

I always wish I had the time to attend riots...

Too bad I have to work instead and be a productive member of society!



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Sorry for the OT. I have a bit of hard time with street protesters in general, and I am already having a long day at 9am - don't mean to troll. Have a good day everyone!
That's the worst troll ever!
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Old 04.10.2011, 09:13
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From the top of my head:

I always wish I had the time to attend riots...

Too bad I have to work instead and be a productive member of society!



As I regain my wits:

Sorry for the OT. I have a bit of hard time with street protesters in general, and I am already having a long day at 9am - don't mean to troll. Have a good day everyone!
Well we all know that the U.S has more jobs then people so your right, how dare these lazy students and people speak out. Enjoy your cubicle. lol
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Well we all know that the U.S has more jobs then people so your right, how dare these lazy students and people speak out. Enjoy your cubicle. lol
Speaking out is a good thing, but my comment, sarcasm aside, is a legit one. Where do these people have all this time??? If I didn't have a job, I would be at home sending my resume left and right, not on the street.

When I was a student I also didn't have time to be in street riots, because I was working 3 jobs to pay for a very expensive master's degree in the US, and when I was not doing that, I was studying to keep up the GPA so I could maintain the small scholarship I was getting from the school.

I have all the sympathy for people who lose their job, it is an awful situation to find oneself into, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel and it is possible to get out. Sadly, protesting in the street is not the way to achieve that in my book.

Regarding the cubicle...sometimes I wish I had a cubicle job instead of running around all the time, but when I am at the office I do enjoy a view of the city instead of a wall...
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Re: Occupy America

...they are just late in picking up on the fashion. Since the Middle East had its Arab Spring, they're doing an Indian Summer.
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Too bad I have to work instead and be a productive member of society!
So what exactly does your employer "produce"?

The riots are against the type of business you are in. They see "wall street" as the problem, not the solution.

The protests will lead to nothing, as always. I don't think it takes some conspiracy theory to accept that the world is run by an extremely small number of people. In the US it's what? Maybe the fifty richest families that give out enough cash during presidential campaigns to effectively decide who wins. Not only directly but even more through the many companies they own through many channels. So it is absolutely not transparent who actually supported which candidate - even if there are some lists to pretend there is clarity.
Of course could in theory the voter decide differently, but well, if the many ads wouldnt work they would not spend the billions on them would they?

I never understood why Americans continuously bang on "freedom" - from what I see do they have less of it than most Europeans, even if they are allowed to buy a gun at wal mart. Looks like a huge gap between the claims and the reality.
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Re: Occupy America

You know, banks wouldn't have so much influence over things if people wouldn't borrow so much money. We borrow for school, houses, cars, and just because we have a credit card in our hand. People should try writing a budget that includes savings for rainy days and large purchases, and then stick to it. If you want something, figure a way to save for it, and buy it when you can afford it.

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You know, banks wouldn't have so much influence over things if people wouldn't borrow so much money. We borrow for school, houses, cars, and just because we have a credit card in our hand. People should try writing a budget that includes savings for rainy days and large purchases, and then stick to it. If you want something, figure a way to save for it, and buy it when you can afford it.

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Just wondering what kind of "freedoms" you think that we don't have? I feel much more constrained here in Switzerland than I ever did in the US what with my neighbors poking their collective noses in when I wash my car or when I hang curtains of a color they don't care for. Exactly how are people more "free" here?
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Speaking out is a good thing, but my comment, sarcasm aside, is a legit one. Where do these people have all this time??? If I didn't have a job, I would be at home sending my resume left and right, not on the street.

When I was a student I also didn't have time to be in street riots, because I was working 3 jobs to pay for a very expensive master's degree in the US, and when I was not doing that, I was studying to keep up the GPA so I could maintain the small scholarship I was getting from the school.
That's because you understand that you get what you work for....and don't sit around blaming The Man
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So what exactly does your employer "produce"?

The riots are against the type of business you are in. They see "wall street" as the problem, not the solution.
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Doesn't Goldman Sachs have a motto that says "we make nothing but money"? Which really is not that hard for them as they are partial owners of the Federal Reserve who prints paper monopoly money to no end then uses this worthless paper to finance both sides of wars. And this is not just an American problem, any country that has a central bank is run the same way.
Gaddafi wanted to move his currency to the gold standard. We invaded the next week despite supporting him under the table for the last 30+ years. When was the last time a western country invaded another country whose major export was broccoli?
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Speaking out is a good thing, but my comment, sarcasm aside, is a legit one. Where do these people have all this time??? If I didn't have a job, I would be at home sending my resume left and right, not on the street.

When I was a student I also didn't have time to be in street riots, because I was working 3 jobs to pay for a very expensive master's degree in the US, and when I was not doing that, I was studying to keep up the GPA so I could maintain the small scholarship I was getting from the school.

I have all the sympathy for people who lose their job, it is an awful situation to find oneself into, but hopefully there is light at the end of the tunnel and it is possible to get out. Sadly, protesting in the street is not the way to achieve that in my book.

Regarding the cubicle...sometimes I wish I had a cubicle job instead of running around all the time, but when I am at the office I do enjoy a view of the city instead of a wall...
Maybe you don't understand. There are NO jobs. You can send your resume left and right but for how many years until you lose hope?
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You know, banks wouldn't have so much influence over things if people wouldn't borrow so much money. We borrow for school, houses, cars, and just because we have a credit card in our hand. People should try writing a budget that includes savings for rainy days and large purchases, and then stick to it. If you want something, figure a way to save for it, and buy it when you can afford it.

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true. but isn't that just deferring responsibility.

For example if you rent your appartment rather than buy, then the bank is still earning money, it's just that your landlord's name is on the mortgage and not yours.
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Re: Occupy America

That video would have been much more watchable sans the obnoxious soundtrack.

Well, I think it's about time that Americans are starting to join forces and rise up. To anyone who posted above that they should, instead, be out looking for work... you apparently have very little understanding of the current situation in the US.

"More jobs than people?"

Right.
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Re: Occupy America

I do wonder why these people have so much extra time, but that is their business. We need people to demonstrate, otherwise we just become slaves to what the higher power decides. I am not the protestor type, but I am gad there are people willing to spend their time bringing issues to the public light. Imagine a world where no one spoke up for what they believe is right. Think of all the things that have happened because people protested and spoke their minds.
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But that was really just some dumbed down hooligan riot. This is much different. There are no riots as of yet but "Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -John F. Kennedy
Hahahaha. I like that. Much different from a dumbed-down hooligon riot? Have you actually watched any of the interviews with these protestors? Children dressing up as zombies, people who have no idea what they're protesting against other than a vague idea of "Wall Street", etc.

People are trying to play it up, but this is not a significant protest, either in terms of subject or quantity of protestors.

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Maybe you don't understand. There are NO jobs. You can send your resume left and right but for how many years until you lose hope?
Malarkey. There are some jobs, there's just not as many as there were in the past. I know people who have, recently, successfully found work in the US. It's certainly harder than it used to be, but don't damage your credibility through exaggeration.
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Maybe you don't understand. There are NO jobs. You can send your resume left and right but for how many years until you lose hope?
Seing there are still many more people wanting to get into the US than wanting to get out, it can't be that bad. Maybe people need to get off their high horse more and accept less glamorous jobs.
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