Steve Jobs vowed to 'destroy' Android - Page 2

mirfield · #21 24.10.2011, 09:43

	Quote:	Enaj
	No wonder he got cancer and died young with that attitude

I've done worse. Perhaps I should take up smoking and sniffing toluene?

Russkov · #22 24.10.2011, 09:48

	Quote:	bigblue2
	sorry but WTF!!

First time you notice? You know those people that take faith over science and mind over body reeeally seriously? That.

Jobsrobertsharpii · #23 24.10.2011, 09:50

Android vs. iPhone sounds to me just like

Mac OS vs. Windows
(That lawsuit was dismissed)

which sounds just like

Mac PC vs IBM PC
(There are still more IBM PCs in the world than Apple/Macs)

Apple has a history of developing well-engineered, well-designed products, but then trying to make virtually everything to do with their product proprietary and controlled by itself. This just sounds like more of the same. Ultimately, IMHO, it will end up with Apple probably losing, just like before.

rainer_d · #24 24.10.2011, 09:58

	Quote:	Treverus
	Sorry, but it works exactly this way today - I recently got myself a new phone contract. Going for the iPhone vs. a good Android model would have cost me 400 SGD more upfront and then 20 each month for two years. That's a premium of nearly 600 CHF! For a phone. Not a premium to have a smartphone with a data contract, but a premium from one smartphone to the Apple one.

But that is not so much.
Just look at historic prices of Apple gear.
What nowadays is a fully decked-out MacPro with everything and the kitchen-sink, historically was the base-model Mac, price-wise.

I have to say, though, that I'm not sure if I'd buy an iPhone and sign-up for an iPhone contract if not my employer would pay for everything but the phone itself. So, for me it was a one-time payment of 600 CHF or so back when the 3GS came out.

	Quote:	Treverus
	Yes, I went for an Android. I loved my iPhone before, but not that much.

Obviously.
I will probably just get a new battery for my 3GS ;-)
BTW: How do you sync and backup your phone to you Mac, without giving all the data to Google?

	Quote:	Treverus
	However, from what I can see does Apple have way more than 30% market share here. And the difference is that they will actually make a profit out of every phone (as the article describes).

Well, I guess some people here can squeeze an iPhone between the rent/mortgage, food, health-insurance and the leasing-contract of the SUV ;-)

	Quote:	Treverus
	I used to work at the device marketing department of a Swiss operator. I for one did not expect an iPhone 5, I expected an upgraded 4. It makes sense - not for the users, but for Apple... they could have come up with more today, but they don't need to - people have two year contracts anyway.

People even liked the iPhone4 so much, that it was still the best-selling smart-phone (in NA anyway), despite it being more than a year "old".

	Quote:	Treverus
	I'd guess so as well. Ever had a Moto?

Nope. Siemens, then Siemens SK65, then iPhone 3GS.
Never looked back.

	Quote:	Treverus
	Features are just one aspect, but so is price. If you can make a similar, well working user experience for half the price - then you are actually innovative as well. Innovation can come in many ways - just as Aldi was innovative when they came up with the hard-discounter concept. So not every innovation looks as cool as Apple, but that's what they are famous for, no?

Price isn't everything to everybody.
Because the customer-satisfaction with the other vendors is so much lower, Apple can charge so much more for their above-average product.

	Quote:	Treverus
	So as I described above that I switched to Android recently, I'll give you an example for innovation that nobody talks about cause Google doesn't have a Steve Jobs: Google Goggles http://www.google.com/mobile/goggles/#text

It's available on iPhone, too:
http://itunes.apple.com/de/app/googl...pp/id284815942

dino · #25 24.10.2011, 13:51

	Quote:	Phil_MCR
	it's a good strategy by apple. they are very profitable, they can easily sue others and eat up the profitability of other phone companies sending them to a loss making position while suffering only a slight margin hit to their own P&L.

plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose...

Apple is today where Microsoft (or AT&T, or Standard Oil) once stood : impossibly rich, dominant, sticking its fingers into everyone's business, bankrupting businesses and entire industries by manipulating prices... and it will fall, like all the others before it did. it's almost a law of the business world.

Apple will get distracted by the patent wars, and by the antitrust lawsuits that will swirl around soon enough. It will overpay for acquisitions, and spread itself too thin. It will run out of consumers willing to pay top dollar for slick design. And if none of that happens, a couple of pimply kids in a garage will invent something that will sweep them aside before you can say revolution...

Jobsrobertsharpii · #26 24.10.2011, 16:30

	Quote:	Jobsrobertsharpii
	Android vs. iPhone sounds to me just like Mac OS vs. Windows (That lawsuit was dismissed) which sounds just like Mac PC vs IBM PC (There are still more IBM PCs in the world than Apple/Macs) Apple has a history of developing well-engineered, well-designed products, but then trying to make virtually everything to do with their product proprietary and controlled by itself. This just sounds like more of the same. Ultimately, IMHO, it will end up with Apple probably losing, just like before.

Oh, yeah- I forgot.

Firewire vs USB

Mud · #27 24.10.2011, 17:12

Somebody please think about the children!

Oh- that's in process already:

Cease and desist letter done been sent, sir.

Next up: "Apple trees to be renamed "round pear trees" after Apple files lawsuit."

Enaj · #28 25.10.2011, 16:19

	Quote:	bigblue2
	sorry but WTF!!

Cosmic law