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Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/10...nshot-to-head/

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...fi-regime.html

Found this story in these two places. It briefly mentions that Mustafa Abdul-Jalil, Libya's transitional government leader, announces that Libya will use Islamic Sharia law as the "basic source" of legislation. He also declared that existing laws that contravene the teachings of Islam would be nullified. What impact is this going to have on CH, the EU, and the US?
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Old 24.10.2011, 12:35
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What impact is this going to have on CH, the EU, and the US?
Similar to that of being slapped in the face...
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Similar to that of being slapped in the face...
They are at least, prima facia, offering us money for our help. So, maybe a left-handed slap?
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Old 24.10.2011, 12:41
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They are at least, prima facia, offering us money for our help. So, maybe a left-handed slap?

you know what they use there left hands for, right??
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Old 24.10.2011, 12:43
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Oh, yeah... oops...
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Fox News and Daily Mail...

Paragons of quality journalism.

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Fox News and Daily Mail...

Paragons of quality journalism.

AKA The Trolls of Journalism!
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Fox News and Daily Mail...

Paragons of quality journalism.

The bulk of the story is AP, not FOXNews or DM. They're just passing it on. I tried to crossreference with CNN, etc (for editorial balance), but I couldn't find anything on it. If somebody has some other news links on the story, I am interested...
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Oh, Fox and the Dailymail all in one post. Where do I start!!!

First the first world interferes to help topple a government, then they find out that the guys they helped put in power don't agree with them, then..............

Do I really have to say more. I have no interest, support or love left for countries that are not neutral!

Paraphrasing a famous Swiss author, the only political system that can claim any ethical foundation is one based on neutrality.
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Old 24.10.2011, 14:31
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

I also read that he cancelled the law that forbid polygamy??
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I also read that he cancelled the law that forbid polygamy??
Might be something that contravenes teachings of traditional Islam? I don't know that much about that part. I'm trying to find out more; I am interested to see if Libya goes the way of Iran, or maybe Saudi Arabia (more moderate). The 'man on the street,' interviews I've read seem to demonstrate some significant pro-Western sentiment in Libya. I think the trick is to not be too heavy-handed, let the Libyans sort themselves out politically. Economically, if the Libyans are trying to restructure debt/lending to conform with Islamic ideas on usury, that could be very problematic for many Western interests, no?
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Good Dictators bring stability and organization to lawless regions.
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Let's assume the news are reals.

I won't be surprised if it does happen. People have been for 40 years under a dictature. They are angry, furious and want revenge. They are not looking to be better but to be different. They will bring back everything Gaddafi took away from them, good, bad.

We need just a handfull of radicalists muslims to spice things up a bit and we will go back in time, when women didn't have any rights and life was dictate (again) by a biggest Rule, purpose.

Sharia isn't a bad law, it is the interpretation and the use made by men (men in masculine use here).

When a men needs to oppress an equal, you know it is because he can't stand up by himself.

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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

I'm fairly sure all the after-dictator Arabian countries will go Iran's way... Iraq as well, asap after US troops leave...
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

Tito, Hussein, Qaddafi all ruthless leaders that somehow kept various factions united despite their intolerance of one another. Coincidence? Hardly. Throw some politically inclined dictators into the mix like Franco or Pinochet and you'll see how difficult some nations have in making the transition to democratic oriented states with a functioning central government.

I do not see Libya being democratic for many years yet, if ever, under what we in Western Europe define as "democratic".
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I am interested to see if Libya goes the way of Iran, or maybe Saudi Arabia (more moderate).
Saudi more moderate than Iran?

Are you joking?

Being friends with the USA isn't a measure of moderacy.

Saudi is only interested in keeping its population perpetually backwards. Iran at least is seeking to develop and move forwards within the framework of theocratic Islam.
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Saudi more moderate than Iran?

Are you joking?

Being friends with the USA isn't a measure of moderacy.

Saudi is only interested in keeping its population perpetually backwards. Iran at least is seeking to develop and move forwards within the framework of theocratic Islam.
Not joking, no. The only thing I've seen Iran developing in recent years is military technology, including nuclear weapons technology. Iran refers to the U.S. as "The Great Satan" and pursues a foreign policy intended to weaken the U.S. Also, Iran wants to be the political, economic, and theocratic center of Islam.

The Saudis, on the other hand, IMO, don't especially like the U.S., but they want our money and our military hardware, and they like to keep the U.S. presence in the gulf as a check to de facto Iranian hegemony over the region.
The Saudis also have the most realpolitik outlook in the region, I think. Their intelligence agency, Ri'āsat Al-Istikhbārāt Al-'Āmah, collaborates very frequently with the Israeli Mossad, for example.

To maybe reframe the question, is to ask, will the Libyans embrace the West, tolerate the West, or reject the West?

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The only thing I've seen [countryX] developing in recent years is military technology, including nuclear weapons technology. [countryX] refers to [countryY]. as "The Great Satan" and pursues a foreign policy intended to weaken [countryY]. Also, [countryX] wants to be the political, economic, ... center of [xxx].
So all countrîes fitting this profile are evil extremists?
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Re: Libya Post Qaddafi- Sharia State?

And that made them more moderate?

What about women's right? Slavation? Education?

Should I really keep going?
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So all countrîes fitting this profile are evil extremists?
Who ever said 'evil extremists'?
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