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Old 28.10.2011, 18:05
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Say hello to your new economic overlords

well, i've been waiting for this move, and here it finally is. A well connected elite are about to financially conquer the entire EU and do it openly and brazenly:

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The future EU treaty ???

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Re: The future EU treaty ???

this has been on the cards for a while and should come as no surprise to anyone who has been watching the EU over the last few years as they methodically increased their power.

as soon as the financial crisis came, i was certain that they would not waste this unique opportunity to make a key power grab and the ESM or some variant of it could well be it (together with fiscal union).

this is nothing short of the total economic conquest of the EU by some elite Eurocrats - and if you put aside the horror of the situation, you have to admire how they've managed to do this with barely a whisper of it in the media and without a single shot being fired.

hopefully the Cameron veto will grow into a full UK referendum on whether the UK pulls out of the EU completely and will hopefully be saved from this disasterous political project that has been described as democratically, intellectually and morally bankrupt.
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

If that treaty is signed with that wording the last bastions of European democracy are dead, if the creditors are above legal reproach then we will have a New World Order, one that can then reveal itself....

Switzerland looks somewhat claustrophobic in that sea of blue, lets hope it can hold back the European an global financial Tsunami to come, I'm increasing my physical gold holdings...
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

Personally I think it would be better to invest in a box of Kalashnikovs
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They are very noisy, if your not part of it you will be hunted, if you want to try and survive be prepared to live like a silent caveman...
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Old 22.12.2011, 11:04
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They are very noisy, if your not part of it you will be hunted, if you want to try and survive be prepared to live like a silent caveman...
Unfortunatly I am part of it and being quiet is not in my nature....
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Unfortunatly I am part of it and being quiet is not in my nature....
Well that's your choice, I hope it works out for you, the thing about money and worldly power is that it's great here on Earth when you can pose with it, but if you have just a tiny inkling of faith and the afterlife and what would constitute a nice or bad eternity then you must ask yourself the question

'What is more valuable to you, here or after' ?

I was here then chose after, I just hope I can do enough to make up for what I did whilst I was here...
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Old 22.12.2011, 11:30
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

I have a hard time taking this video clip seriously when the narrator speaks with a strong American accent and continusly speaks of "we" right up to the end where she changes to "you".

Who has published the clip?
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Well that's your choice, I hope it works out for you, the thing about money and worldly power is that it's great here on Earth when you can pose with it, but if you have just a tiny inkling of faith and the afterlife and what would constitute a nice or bad eternity then you must ask yourself the question

'What is more valuable to you, here or after' ?

I was here then chose after, I just hope I can do enough to make up for what I did whilst I was here...
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

am I the only one noticing the irony in the fact that the videos are narrated by an American voice?
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am I the only one noticing the irony in the fact that the videos are narrated by an American voice?
The voice is a computer generated voice translated from written text, fear is very strong in the world at the moment, anyone opposing what that treaty aims could end up paying for it, so the creator has disguised their voice..
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

Is wearing a tin-foil hat essential for contribution to this thread?
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Is wearing a tin-foil hat essential for contribution to this thread?
This isn't about chemtrails and Area 51, the information in the YT clip is all available and the part about immunities is particularly unsettling.

Googly this, it's all there.
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What-ever rocks your boat, it's probably better than having yer head up yer as* which is where we must have had ours to let this situation get so bad !
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Well that's your choice, I hope it works out for you, the thing about money and worldly power is that it's great here on Earth when you can pose with it, but if you have just a tiny inkling of faith and the afterlife and what would constitute a nice or bad eternity then you must ask yourself the question

'What is more valuable to you, here or after' ?

I was here then chose after, I just hope I can do enough to make up for what I did whilst I was here...
Interesting concept I see around me quite often. Yet I fail to understand it... To me to be good at someone, to make good and more complicated choices over quick & dirty ones is not led by fear of afterlife, not by desire to "secure" what may come next, get some + points. It is not even to once in future get back what You plant by Your good deeds, as once explained to me by one indian holy man in Himalaya (aka karma). If I do something good, it is because of simple belief that it should be done this way and this world needs it, no matter how it will (or won't) come back to me. And I am an atheist, not by convenience but by belief.

World is not black & white, You can work & study hard, earn a lot in honest way and then use these money to improve life of some poor people anywhere in the world, in persona. Just don't go for cheap consciousness fixes like some humanitarian organizations, 90% of Your money would be swallowed by bureaucracy. See, instant saint there
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This isn't about chemtrails and Area 51, the information in the YT clip is all available and the part about immunities is particularly unsettling.

Googly this, it's all there.
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What-ever rocks your boat, it's probably better than having yer head up yer as* which is where we must have had ours to let this situation get so bad !

The information in the clip is a mix of fact and some slightly dubious interpretation. The ESM is very tightly controlled and legally enforceable - true - but what is the alternative? Continued nice words in Euro meetings from Greeks et al about solving the issue and then nothing happening? You think that the money markets would be satisfied by something loose and aspirational? Of course not

But the "tin foil" bit is that you really believe that some secret cabal is behind this. You really believe that? This was caused by us and our behaviour - no more, no less
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Re: Say hello to your new economic overlords

I saw this video a few days ago and thought '&^%$ this can't be true' but a little Googling reveals that the treaty wording is true. Absolutely terrifying - if anyone harboured any doubts at all that Europe bore any resemblance to a democracy and/or that intelligent journalism is alive and well in the mainstream media (surely this should be page 1-10 news if so) the fact that the European political elite reckon they can pass this pact kills all doubt.

Hopefully enough citizens of Europe are made aware of the despicable nature of this treaty - absolute blind robbery by the political elite - and rise up against it. But I seriously have my doubts that they will - other distractions will blind them to it. One rightly hears so much griping from Europeans about the US Patriot Act etc. but the microscope needs to be turned inward as this European Stability Mechanism is equally as bad, if not worse.
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But the "tin foil" bit is that you really believe that some secret cabal is behind this. You really believe that? This was caused by us and our behaviour - no more, no less
I wouldn't say the cabal is secret - they openly brag about this shit the only problem is their TV broadcasts are so dull no sheeple tune in - their names include Barroso, Herman van Rumpoy, Baroness Ashton etc.

The broadcasts can however be entertaining such as this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqovTGjYjM4
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