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Re: How long till we hear this in Switzerland?

Tuesday 29th November 2011

http://www.lbc.co.uk/woman-charged-o...don-tram-47965

A 34-year-old woman has been charged after a video allegedly showing her racially abusing fellow passengers on the tram went viral on the internet.

The clip, viewed more than two million times since being uploaded to YouTube on Sunday, shows a woman sitting with a child, shouting at fellow passengers on the Croydon-to-Wimbledon Tramlink.

Emma West, of New Addington in Croydon, is has been charged with a racially-aggravated public order offence.

She was arrested on Monday and is due to appear before Croydon Magistrates' Court later on Tuesday.

The clip, filmed on the Croydon to Wimbledon Tramlink, shows a woman with a toddler sitting on her lap swearing and abusing passengers. She tells one: "You are not British," and "go back to where you came from."
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and the Swiss are not so racist? Certainly they wouldn't speak
like that, but....
Sorry disagree here. Don't get me wrong, im not saying that the statement is completely wrong but I have come across some very racist Swiss people.

One for example, a old man on our street had a go at my Swiss OH calling him Italian when he is not. My OH was walking the dogs and the old git just started shouting in Swiss at him saying ' is one dog not enough'. When my OH responded saying 'what's wrong with having two dogs' the guy responded saying ' don't you understand what I am saying Italian'. MyOH has spent 20 years in Australia so I guess he must have an accent to his Swiss. He was completely taken a back. And when he didn't respond to the mans rant in the street he kept shouting ' don't you understand me!'.

We thought that was the end of it but every time we walked the dogs the guy was there following us. He followed us home once ranting the same thing! Then my OH lost it and shouted Rascist loud enough for others to hear. The guy didn't say anything and walked off. The last time we saw us he just said to us 'don't call me a Rascist, there are just too many foreigners in this country!' God I could have punched him then.

We just avoid him now, sadly he's only a few apartments down.
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Re: How long till we hear this in Switzerland?

Earlier this year on a bus to Croydon, I saw an lady lose her sh*t at all the "coloreds" who were crowding around her shopping kart that she paid "twenty bloody quid!" for. People laughed her off the bus.

Times are hard for the "non-coloreds" of Croydon.
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"on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence"
Forget the "racially aggravated" part. Is that actually a law??? Public order offence? Could we charge parents with that every time they let their little one run amock in a store??? (God, I'd love that).

But seriously... it's free speech. Don't they have that in Britain? She's as free as she wants to be to say stupid shit. Nobody has to like it.

I know the Brits are rather embarrassed of her, but I'll tell you... the fact that she got arrested for it is making me feel rather damn proud that my ancestors rebelled against King George!
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United Kingdom

Main article: Hate speech laws in the United Kingdom
In the United Kingdom, several statutes protect several categories of persons from hate speech. The statutes forbid communication which is hateful, threatening, abusive, or insulting and which targets a person on account of skin colour, race, nationality (including citizenship), ethnic or national origin, religion, or sexual orientation. The penalties for hate speech include fines, imprisonment, or both.[42][43][44][45][46][47]


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Laws prohibiting hate speech are unconstitutional in the United States, outside of obscenity, defamation, incitement to riot, and fighting words.[48][49][50] The United States federal government and state governments are broadly forbidden by the First Amendment of the Constitution from restricting speech.[51]







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Forget the "racially aggravated" part. Is that actually a law??? Public order offence? Could we charge parents with that every time they let their little one run amock in a store??? (God, I'd love that).

But seriously... it's free speech. Don't they have that in Britain? She's as free as she wants to be to say stupid shit. Nobody has to like it.

I know the Brits are rather embarrassed of her, but I'll tell you... the fact that she got arrested for it is making me feel rather damn proud that my ancestors rebelled against King George!
Freedom of speech doesn't exist in Europe (or Canada for that matter) as Americans know it. That said, the US isn't some kind of bastion of freedom anymore and leads the Western world in throwing people in jail for other victimless crimes. So don't get a big head about it.
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Old 29.11.2011, 15:19
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Forget the "racially aggravated" part. Is that actually a law??? Public order offence? Could we charge parents with that every time they let their little one run amock in a store??? (God, I'd love that).

But seriously... it's free speech. Don't they have that in Britain? She's as free as she wants to be to say stupid shit. Nobody has to like it.

I know the Brits are rather embarrassed of her, but I'll tell you... the fact that she got arrested for it is making me feel rather damn proud that my ancestors rebelled against King George!
There is actually a law against racially aggravated assault, and she was arrested for it.
I hate it when certain (American) people use "free speech" or "right to bear arms" as an excuse to be total and utter twats.
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at least the woman is being honest and speaking her position. i'd prefer that to some serpent tongued politicians or laws brought about which obliquely discriminate.
So you wouldn't mind if a politician told somebody to "go back to where you come from", if that's what they really think?
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So you wouldn't mind if a politician told somebody to "go back to where you come from", if that's what they really think?
He didn't say that. He said he'd prefer honesty to politicians who say one thing and then wind up discriminating in secret.

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He didn't say that. He said he'd prefer honesty to politicians who say one thing and then wind up discriminating in secret.

Preferring one evil to another is not say that the lesser evil is good.
Ok, fine. I just think it's a bit of a bizarre statement to make.
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Re: How long till we hear this in Switzerland?

Similar thing happened, not as bad, but along the same lines, to me in Salford. It was St. Georges day, and because the previous year a load of 'patriots' incited a bunch of racism, including a young black woman being attacked, the city of manchester had said that all pubs had to be shut at 5pm.
I was on my normal commute back to Salford, the bus was busy, as normal, and there were a couple of prams on the bus, one a twin pram, than this woman (in her 40s?) started complaining that the twin pram was in the corridor and that (racists word) have no decency. The pram was slightly in the corridor, because an elderly woman was standing in the pram space. The racist woman started going on about how (racist word) never stand up for old people (and she is sitting by the way, at the front of the bus, where the only door is) and I ask her to stop being racist. She tells me she has the right to say what she likes, I counter that so do I and that I think that she is not only ignorant, but that she was highly offensive and that she was an example of the worst of the 'native English' peoples. She told me to shut up because she can say what she likes (good debate skills). She starts on how foreigners are ruining the country, I point out that the UK is a nation of immigrants, it's only a matter of timing. She tells me to shut up and she is entitled to her opinion, I say she is, but that the whole bus doesn't need to hear her racist rants and to just calm down.
Then she gets off, and it turns out that the old woman that was standing in the pram section was her mum!
I apologised profusely to the young woman with the twins on behalf of my country, and a couple of others here here'd but only after the racist had got off.
I hate that more people don't stand up to these people.
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Re: How long till we hear this in Switzerland?

Something similar happened to my gf a couple of weeks ago on a tram in Zurich. The culprit actually grabbed her bag and moved it and sat right next to her to continue his harassment.
The only difference I think, is that England is by far more diverse than Switzerland and therefore, this incident is taken very serious. This wouldn't happen in Switzerland, as they barely reinforce those laws here IMO.

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How about this one : 34 years old expects 16th baby from 14th mother- does not support any of them financially or otherwise!
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Re: How long till we hear this in Switzerland?

This is actually happening in Switzerland now, albeit very very rarely, Im sure you have all kinds of these idiots everywhere you go. At least from what my Swiss bf translated to me, we heard a man on a tram once towards Central, Zürich apparently ranting on about how many foreigners are in the country now ''he apparently did not specifically say ''his'' country'' and how they should all go home and leave Switzerland alone.....
It's very sad actually that some people do not see the benefits that foreign workers bring to a country's economy and know-how pool.
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Something similar happened to my gf a couple of weeks ago on a tram in Zurich. The culprit actually grabbed her bag and moved it and sat right next to her to continue his harassment.
The only difference I think, is that England is by far more diverse than Switzerland and therefore, this incident is taken very serious. This wouldn't happen in Switzerland, as they barely reinforce those laws here IMO.
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So you wouldn't mind if a politician told somebody to "go back to where you come from", if that's what they really think?
Have been told that many times
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