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Old 03.01.2012, 14:05
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The Sudetenland was not German, but together with Bohemia and Moravia (Czechia) part of Austria-Hungary until WW-I. They not only had to swallow being turned from the ruling group of people in Bohemia into a minority
The Sudeten Germans were not ruling class. German speaking people did rule Bohemia in the days of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, but these rulers and their civil servants were not Sudeten German but more Austrian aristocrats and their retinues (plus Germanised Bohemian families, such as the Kafkas) who had little in common with the Sudeten Germans apart from speaking the same language. The Sudeten Germans were mostly farmers, and they distrusted their Austrian rulers as much as their Slavic brothers did. In fact prior to the major upheavals and ethinic cleansings of the 20th Century there were plenty of pockets and enclaves of German speakers all over Eastern Europe just as there were pockets and enclaves of the different Slav peoples in one another's territories and in the German speaking territories. In parts of German today you can still find Sorb villages. The Sorbs are a Slavic people who have managed to conserve their own langauge and traditions despite having been part of Germany (and predecessor German speaking countries) for a very long time. Also many East-German place names indicate their Slavic roots just as there are traces of German presence much further East.
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Old 03.01.2012, 14:12
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Logically looking at a map makes sense to give Switzerland to Germany?

If you look at the map of Africa you will see that many borders are rectangular. They were also created by people logically looking at maps.
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Old 10.04.2012, 16:20
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Strange world we live in, from today's newspapers;
"Britain wants Argentina to pay back Ł45 million in loans that the country's former military junta used to fund equipment that was later used in the invasion of the Falkland Islands.
Argentina had used the money to buy two Type 42 destroyers, which were deployed during the invasion as well as two Lynx helicopters, one of which was among the first to arrive on the islands after the assault was launched"

Next time Britain should fit them with remote controlled self destruct

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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Britains protection of the Falkand Islands is understandable although i think Argentina may have a case,to a certain extent.

Having said that Britain has committed a crime against the Chago Islands people and for what?So us and the Yanks can have a military base there.

Britain gets somethings right,but other times we are disgusting cruel hypocrites.
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Old 17.04.2012, 23:41
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Why steal the Falklands & their questionable oil reserves when you can steal a whole oil company?
Form today's newspapers "President Cristina Fernández de Kirchner shocked the oil industry with the plan to seize 51% of Repsol's Argentinian assets"
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Old 09.05.2012, 14:42
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

You know that controversial ad about the Argentinian athlete preparing for the Olympics by training in the Falklands?

Seems to have backfired somewhat
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Old 04.10.2012, 13:42
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Seems the Ghanaians have seized an Argetinian naval ship that docked there because of unpaid Argentinian Govt. debts. There was an injunction to seize it from an American hedge fund that lost x.x Billions in Argentinian Govt. bonds.

I guess the Argentinian Govt. now has to be careful where they send their ships?
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Old 19.10.2012, 00:17
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Mixed messages?

From the Telegraph;
Mario Menéndez, the army general who led and surrendered Argentine troops in the Falklands War in 1982 & was military governor of the Falklands during the conflict, has been arrested for his alleged role in crimes against humanity perpetrated by the 1976-83 military dictatorship.

Mr Menéndez, 82, was arrested together with 15 other people for their suspected participation in 'Operation Independence', one of the first operations of the dictatorship's 'Dirty War' against left-wing subversion.

An estimated 30,000 people were 'disappeared' – kidnapped and murdered – by the regime.

Seems the Falklanders were lucky he did not stay around for long.
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Old 19.10.2012, 12:34
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Mixed messages?

From the Telegraph;
Mario Menéndez, the army general who led and surrendered Argentine troops in the Falklands War in 1982 & was military governor of the Falklands during the conflict, has been arrested for his alleged role in crimes against humanity perpetrated by the 1976-83 military dictatorship.

Mr Menéndez, 82, was arrested together with 15 other people for their suspected participation in 'Operation Independence', one of the first operations of the dictatorship's 'Dirty War' against left-wing subversion.

An estimated 30,000 people were 'disappeared' – kidnapped and murdered – by the regime.

Seems the Falklanders were lucky he did not stay around for long.

It's interesting how Kirchner is on the one hand going after the old Junta, while on the other hand picking up their demagogery.
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Old 04.01.2013, 15:38
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The Falkland Islands should belong to Argentina. It's ridiculous for the UK to claim that an island halfway around the world and directly off the coast of Argentina is part of its territory. If they haven't noticed, we're no longer stuck in the 18th century. Well maybe they haven't, seeing as they bother keeping a monarchy around to this day.
The well known supporter of democracy, The Sun newspaper, has bought an advertisement in an Argentine newspaper, re-affirming Britains claim to the British island of Falkland. British sovereignty dates back to 1765.

But the journalist Daniel Schweimler, who lives in Argentina, said the Sun's message would not go down well.
Mr Schweimler, who is based in Buenos Aires, said: "I've been here seven years now, and have never come across an Argentine who doesn't believe that the Falklands belong to Argentina.
"There's never been any animosity towards me when I mentioned that I'm British, but I think it's fair to say that almost across the board in a country of 40 million people they believe that... the Falklands belong to them," he added.
Argentine journalist Celina Andreassi agreed and says the Sun's advert was quite provocative.
Asked on BBC Radio 5 live what the reaction would be in Argentina, she said: "Probably anger, people will wonder what has the Sun got to do with it, but again the arguments the Sun puts forward are the arguments the British have generally put forward; the arguments our press put forward are the same as always - basically there's really nothing new."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20907312

History, http://uk.news.yahoo.com/falklands-r...013852716.html

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Old 04.01.2013, 16:27
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The well known supporter of democracy, The Sun newspaper, has bought an advertisement in an Argentine newspaper, re-affirming Britains claim to the British island of Falkland. British sovereignty dates back to 1765.

But the journalist Daniel Schweimler, who lives in Argentina, said the Sun's message would not go down well.
Mr Schweimler, who is based in Buenos Aires, said: "I've been here seven years now, and have never come across an Argentine who doesn't believe that the Falklands belong to Argentina.
"There's never been any animosity towards me when I mentioned that I'm British, but I think it's fair to say that almost across the board in a country of 40 million people they believe that... the Falklands belong to them," he added.
Argentine journalist Celina Andreassi agreed and says the Sun's advert was quite provocative.
Asked on BBC Radio 5 live what the reaction would be in Argentina, she said: "Probably anger, people will wonder what has the Sun got to do with it, but again the arguments the Sun puts forward are the arguments the British have generally put forward; the arguments our press put forward are the same as always - basically there's really nothing new."


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20907312
The Sun is as f-ink stupid as Kirchner is. They are both attempting to improve their popularity by making retarded statements. It is trolling on an international scale.
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

The old classic Falklands Card in Argentine politics never goes away, always used when the government is facing poor approval ratings due to economic mismanagement.

But not to worry, Argentines are still gullible to the idea just as the current government isn't as stupid to overplay the card again like in 1982.
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Old 04.01.2013, 16:59
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The Sun is as f-ink stupid as Kirchner is. They are both attempting to improve their popularity by making retarded statements. It is trolling on an international scale.
This is another view of it

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/i...-2013010455037
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

1st April came early this year
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Maybe, but I hope that Britain does NOT give in. If Britain DOES, it will unleash various developments
- Belize will be wanted back by Honduras or/and Guatemala
- Spain will demand back Gibraltar
- Morocco will demand back Ceuta, Melilla and Gibraltar
- Malaysia and Indonesia will demand Singapore
- the USA will demand the British Virgin Islands
- Cuba will demand back the Bahamas
- Jamaica will demand back the Cayman Islands
- Canada will demand St. Pierre & Miquelon
- Turkey will demand back Rhodos and Kreta
- Switzerland will demand back the Valtellina/Veltlin
- Kiribati will demand the Hawaii Islands
- Austria will demand back the South Tirol
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Re: Argentina launches naval campaign to isolate Falkland Islands

Well, it's long ago since Britain was considered a light of civilization (which is one of the reasons why Argentina - among others - have their claims),

and in case I wouldn't be sure at all if it has still any military power to guarantee for the Falklands (or any other oversea land), "sic transit gloria mundi" Asterix' pirates would say, oder "Der Lack ist ab" in German, probably much of a difference from 1982.

And I wouldn't be so sure either that NATO, EU or any other country would help the British as they are not liked so much.

I have the feeling Argentina is much more considered a friendly nation among many, unlike UK.
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Old 06.01.2013, 21:42
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Well, it's long ago since Britain was considered a light of civilization (which is one of the reasons why Argentina - among others - have their claims),

and in case I wouldn't be sure at all if it has still any military power to guarantee for the Falklands (or any other oversea land), "sic transit gloria mundi" Asterix' pirates would say, oder "Der Lack ist ab" in German, probably much of a difference from 1982.

And I wouldn't be so sure either that NATO, EU or any other country would help the British as they are not liked so much.

I have the feeling Argentina is much more considered a friendly nation among many, unlike UK.

You mean "Las Malvinas"?

Argentina certainly doesn't have the military might to win them either. There's no money in the kitty. Well, unless we consider Cristina's "patrimony". Then we might find some cash mount a fight.
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You mean "Las Malvinas"?

Argentina certainly doesn't have the military might to win them either.
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Maybe not to fight open battles (neither has UK), but as we are not talking of occupying South Africa but a godforsaken cold pretty ugly island somewhere offshore Argentina (and not Britain), you don't need much to take it.
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Maybe not to fight open battles (neither has UK), but as we are not talking of occupying South Africa but a godforsaken cold pretty ugly island somewhere offshore Argentina (and not Britain), you don't need much to take it.
Chile has more chance of taking Argentina. Argentina could hold the islands for about a day.

But you've said all that needs to be said. They are god forsaken cold pretty ugly islands who are happy being British. Argentine leaders just like to saber rattle when the countries is in a mess. It's a political distraction.
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Chile has more chance of taking Argentina. Argentina could hold the islands for about a day.
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UK wouldn't have the military power to get it back, which is no secret.


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But you've said all that needs to be said. They are god forsaken cold pretty ugly islands who are happy being British.
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Might be. Their choice, not mine.


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Argentine leaders just like to saber rattle when the countries is in a mess. It's a political distraction.
Of course it is, as it was back then.
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