Go Back   English Forum Switzerland > Off-Topic > Off-Topic > International affairs/politics  
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 25.01.2012, 11:13
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Gunned down in broad daylight

I wonder how many years this cop will go down for

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rking-lot.html
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 25.01.2012, 11:19
grynch's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Geneva/Vaud
Posts: 4,945
Groaned at 50 Times in 46 Posts
Thanked 5,199 Times in 2,354 Posts
grynch has a reputation beyond reputegrynch has a reputation beyond reputegrynch has a reputation beyond reputegrynch has a reputation beyond reputegrynch has a reputation beyond reputegrynch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Police shot the bass-terd with a taser
he pulled the lead wires out of his face
and THEN tried swing at an officer with a lead pipe?

I would have pulled a gun and shot him until I heard "click-click-click"

which is apparently what the responding officers did.

an inquiry will find justifiable homicide ( surprise ? )
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank grynch for this useful post:
  #3  
Old 25.01.2012, 11:31
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Could they not have set the dog on him, it was desperate to get at him.
or
If they had no other choice other than shooting him, did they really need to shoot him 10 times, 5 of them with his back to them?
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 25.01.2012, 11:36
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: zürich
Posts: 3,194
Groaned at 105 Times in 79 Posts
Thanked 3,987 Times in 1,625 Posts
i-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond reputei-b-deborah has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

I would not.

You shouldn't give scared men weapons.

Quote:
View Post
I would have pulled a gun and shot him until I heard "click-click-click"

which is apparently what the responding officers did.

an inquiry will find justifiable homicide ( surprise ? )
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank i-b-deborah for this useful post:
  #5  
Old 25.01.2012, 12:52
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
I wonder how many years this cop will go down for

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...rking-lot.html
Probably about as many as this marine http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...oids-jail.html
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 25.01.2012, 12:54
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 14,500
Groaned at 280 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 21,738 Times in 8,818 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

If someone with a gun tells you to, for example, put down that lead pipe and lie on the floor, you do what you are told and argue about your rights later. Any other action is effectively suicide. (Certainly suicidal).

The reason why it seems such overkill is that it is the duty of the officers to ensure that the person is unable to present any further danger to the officers themselves and anyone else around. I.e. to make absolutely sure he was dead. Tasers are for non-lethal subdugation. Guns for lethal.

That is the way society has decided to protect itself. If you don't like it, then get the law changed. Don't complain about how awful the police are.

It's exactly the same in the UK, and presumably here. Armed police are trained to kill. However, I will say that if this had happened in the UK, the idiot would probably still be alive.
__________________
Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #7  
Old 25.01.2012, 13:04
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: La Cote
Posts: 80
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 35 Times in 19 Posts
Brabus is considered unworthyBrabus is considered unworthyBrabus is considered unworthy
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Why shoot to kill? Why not shoot in the legs...
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 25.01.2012, 13:11
dodgyken's Avatar
Forum Legend
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Democratic Republic Kenistan
Posts: 10,653
Groaned at 280 Times in 231 Posts
Thanked 19,403 Times in 7,402 Posts
dodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond reputedodgyken has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
Why shoot to kill? Why not shoot in the legs...
You expect a US police office to hit a stationary leg from 10m??
Reply With Quote
The following 3 users would like to thank dodgyken for this useful post:
  #9  
Old 25.01.2012, 13:18
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: La Cote
Posts: 80
Groaned at 3 Times in 3 Posts
Thanked 35 Times in 19 Posts
Brabus is considered unworthyBrabus is considered unworthyBrabus is considered unworthy
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
You expect a US police office to hit a stationary leg from 10m??
With rapid fire surely they'll hit something in the nether region.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 25.01.2012, 13:19
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,198
Groaned at 63 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

nobody knows anything about the perpetrator yet. let the police give a response before we jump to conclusions about inappropriate use of force.

Quote:
View Post
Why shoot to kill? Why not shoot in the legs...
Shoot to maime is considered torture, and the US doesn't torture. officially. kind of.
Reply With Quote
The following 2 users would like to thank KeinFranzösisch for this useful post:
  #11  
Old 25.01.2012, 13:25
flavio's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Winterthur
Posts: 764
Groaned at 69 Times in 40 Posts
Thanked 614 Times in 345 Posts
flavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputation
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Reminds me the time a was pointed at by 7 Galil automatic rifles.
Very calm hands on the driving wheel.
Shit, that was close.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 25.01.2012, 14:34
NotAllThere's Avatar
Modulo 2
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Baselland
Posts: 14,500
Groaned at 280 Times in 239 Posts
Thanked 21,738 Times in 8,818 Posts
NotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond reputeNotAllThere has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
Why shoot to kill? Why not shoot in the legs...
Because they're taught to shoot at the easiest target to hit - the body. Anytime the police fire their guns at someone, it's shooting to kill.

They tried less lethal force first (Taser), but it didn't work.

Quote:
View Post
Reminds me the time a was pointed at by 7 Galil automatic rifles.
Very calm hands on the driving wheel.
Shit, that was close.
How much was the laundry bill?
Reply With Quote
This user would like to thank NotAllThere for this useful post:
  #13  
Old 25.01.2012, 14:37
KeinFranzösisch's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 2,198
Groaned at 63 Times in 38 Posts
Thanked 2,549 Times in 1,115 Posts
KeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond reputeKeinFranzösisch has a reputation beyond repute
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
Because they're taught to shoot at the easiest target to hit - the body.
Uh no.

They're trained on use of force, with the gun being the weapon of last resort -- lethal force. Therefore, shots are to be aimed with purpose of killing, aimed at the head or the chest.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 25.01.2012, 15:04
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: Lausanne
Posts: 53
Groaned at 0 Times in 0 Posts
Thanked 12 Times in 11 Posts
Akos084 has no particular reputation at present
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
I would not.

You shouldn't give scared men weapons.
You shouldn't give weapon-look-like things to idiots... attacking police...

Well, In my opinion this was a case of Darwinian selection...
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 25.01.2012, 19:10
flavio's Avatar
Forum Veteran
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Winterthur
Posts: 764
Groaned at 69 Times in 40 Posts
Thanked 614 Times in 345 Posts
flavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputationflavio has an excellent reputation
Re: Gunned down in broad daylight

Quote:
View Post
How much was the laundry bill?
No laundry. It was one of those moments in life in which you see everything happening very slow, body temperature drops (feels like).

Fortunately there was a captain shouting "don't fire". I wonder what would have happened if he hadn't shouted.

I just took a wrong turn at the wrong time.
Reply With Quote
Reply




Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Broad Beans MusicChick Food and drink 36 20.06.2011 21:26
Daylight Savings Natasha Daily life 28 26.10.2008 11:32
Broad beans - where can I buy some? Louis Wu General off-topic 9 17.09.2008 10:52
Daylight Savings Time Lob Daily life 3 29.10.2006 11:31


All times are GMT +2. The time now is 04:36.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.1.0