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First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

This evening, the results of the first round of the French parliamentary elections, for the "Assemblée Nationale" will become known. It is obvious that the UMP of ex-president Sarkozy loses points, but whether all this is enough to give the SP and its allies a majority is not yet clear.
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

The big deal is "triangulaires", three candidates allowed to stay for second round. By the nature of things, there is usually one candidate from the left, one from the right, and the third one is in those cases from the Front National (Far right party).
The cutting line is 12,5% of the electors (not voters but of the total of people on the voting lists).

In such cases, it means that the left candidate usually wins the seat.
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Old 10.06.2012, 21:23
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The big deal is "triangulaires", three candidates allowed to stay for second round. By the nature of things, there is usually one candidate from the left, one from the right, and the third one is in those cases from the Front National (Far right party).
The cutting line is 12,5% of the electors (not voters but of the total of people on the voting lists).

In such cases, it means that the left candidate usually wins the seat.
It looks as follows

http://www.liberation.fr/elections-2012,100092

but if your forecast becomes true, the FN will arrange a leftist majority in the Assemblée. So that a lot now depends on the 2nd round

and this BBC report
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18388273
makes it clear that Mr Hollande is to fail to get a serious majority in the Assemblée Nationale, which means that his left-of-centre government will most likely be a minority government, with UMP and FN trying everything to make things difficult for him

here an interim result
http://www.liberation.fr/politiques/...er-tour_824715

with the Département where my uncle from Neuchâtel lived in his last two decades, the Dépt Var, having voted UMP

and here
http://www.liberation.fr/politiques/...er-tour_824715
the latest

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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

Today's Libération gives Hollande a comfortable position, without having an absolute majority. FN predicted with 3 seats, i.e. negligible. The hard left & the ecologists should get a dozen each & they are not going to vote against the socialists very often.

So, it looks like Hollande can execute his plan ... Bonne chance .

I do not expect many of the headline catching measures (75% topline tax, thousands of new teachers...) to be enacted any time soon.

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Today's Libération gives Hollande a comfortable position, without having an absolute majority. FN predicted with 3 seats, i.e. negligible. The hard left & the ecologists should get a dozen each & they are not going to vote against the socialists very often.

So, it looks like Hollande can execute his plan ... Bonne chance .

I do not expect many of the headline catching measures (75% topline tax, thousands of new teachers...) to be enacted any time soon.
His party may not but his coalition, as it looks, will get an absolute majority. Which means that he after next weekend most likely will have HIS government and full majorities in both houses of the French parliament ! And so, to have it with the famous French saying "Le Roi est mort .... VIVE LE ROI "
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

Now it's getting strange. Complex story:

- President's ex-wife Mrs. Royal is candidate in La Rochelle for the Socialist Party
- There is a dissident candidate originally also socialist but without party official mandate for this election
- Both are in second round of the election, so it's a kind of double-socialist round there
- Mrs Royal the official candidate is officially supported by the president (he stays otherwise outside the battle) because it's a tough election for her in these conditions
- President's new partner, Mrs. Trierweiler, sent a Twitter message today where she supports the dissident candidate against her partner's ex-wife
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Now it's getting strange. Complex story:

- President's ex-wife Mrs. Royal is candidate in La Rochelle for the Socialist Party
- There is a dissident candidate originally also socialist but without party official mandate for this election
- Both are in second round of the election, so it's a kind of double-socialist round there
- Mrs Royal the official candidate is officially supported by the president (he stays otherwise outside the battle) because it's a tough election for her in these conditions
- President's new partner, Mrs. Trierweiler, sent a Twitter message today where she supports the dissident candidate against her partner's ex-wife
...
wow.
Indeed. Thanks for the tip. Looks like a real psychodrama. Seems like the President's not-wife wants to show she is still free. But this tweet looks like raw jealousy. Get the popcorn. It should be a good game .
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

If Trierweiler is that jealous, she need canceling. The other possibility is that she is on secret mission. Royal has many enemies within the socialist party (old stories). Jospin lives on Île de Ré, just off the coast of La Rochelle... how funny is that?
But it is definitely the first political mistake by the Socialist this year. People won't like that. There are bloody stories behind the curtains in this party. So many smart people in the same room seems to be lethal for common sense.

That's the scandal of the day, I thought I had to share.
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

Wow, what a twitter war Valerie Trierweiler's tweet started! I just find it hard to believe that out of all the circumscriptions in France, she had to, by accident, express her "independent" opinion on the district that just happens to be the one Segolene Royal is running in and had no idea, despite being a trained journalist, that it would be a major ****storm.

I agree she has the right to express her opinion as "free woman", but she is savvy enough to have thought about the consequences and potential (mis)interpretation and to make us think otherwise is an insult to our collective intelligence.
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

The main problem in this business over Segolene vs Valerie is their is no official position for the OH of the President. She's been given an office and assistants, but she wants to keep on being a journalist, a political one at that. And now she's helping the flames around Segolene rise... there's a lot of people who want her to lose, Raffarin and Bussereau on the right (Raffarin used to run the Poitou-Charentes region until Segolene won it in 2004) and Lionel Jospin, former prime minister (97-2002) detests her. It looks like a rather boring election is going to be full of surprises Sunday. Hegemony for the Socialist Party but at what price ?
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

Apparently Valérie's twitter account "was pirated". Took her a while to notice. .

Too little too late. The right wing tweeter, Nadine Moreno sent: "if he can't keep his other half in check, how's he going to manage with France". Charming...
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Too little too late. The right wing tweeter, Nadine Moreno sent: "if he can't keep his other half in check, how's he going to manage with France". Charming...
That's mild in her mouth, usually she is a real bully.

Nobody will believe her twitter was pirated. Too late. This kind of things must be announced within a couple of hours after the Twitter message if it's true to be credible.
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Re: First round of French parliamentary elections now coming to their conclusion

evidently she came out and said it was pirated after another tweet today where someone posted a link to an article that wasn't very flattering to her. Still weak sauce, what she can't get back in and delete the tweet with the article?

For those of you who speak French and are on Twitter, tonight's En Ligne Directe is talking about Valeriegate. the hashtag is #enld
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