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Old 13.06.2019, 12:41
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Sajid Javid signs US extradition order for Julian Assange

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Javid said: “It is a decision ultimately for the courts, but there is a very important part of it for the home secretary and I want to see justice done at all times and we’ve got a legitimate extradition request, so I’ve signed it, but the final decision is now with the courts.”
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Old 14.08.2019, 22:14
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Re: Assange should man up and not run

Assange is responsible for so much suffering and death, for example :

Majid Jamali Fashi was executed two months before Mr Ebrahimi's arrest.

Iranian state TV showed what it said was Mr Fashi's Israeli passport. It appears to be a doctored image of an Israeli passport taken from Wikipedia.

It is believed that Mr Fashi was detained after Wikileaks had published a leaked US diplomatic cable in 2009.

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Latest on the case..

Sweden drops Assange rape investigation
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Old 22.11.2019, 20:55
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Re: Assange should man up and not run

Which probably has everything to do with this damaging report:

https://www.ohchr.org/EN/NewsEvents/...x?NewsID=24665




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Re: Assange should man up and not run

Swiss news report today, that the Swedish police has made up the rape case, even against the will of one of the woman they used for that, who only demanded a HIV test from Assange after having consensual, unprotected sex with him. When she realized what was happening she explicitly wanted nothing to do with this fake case yet was ignored.
According to research by Nils Melzer, UN special correspondent.

SRF is careful about what it reports, so I absolutely believe it. And am truly shocked. They also said that this will not be solved but swept under the table, the case has been declared closed by Swedish police (and I suspect the politicians).
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Swiss news report today, that the Swedish police has made up the rape case, even against the will of one of the woman they used for that, who only demanded a HIV test from Assange after having consensual, unprotected sex with him. When she realized what was happening she explicitly wanted nothing to do with this fake case yet was ignored.
According to research by Nils Melzer, UN special correspondent.

SRF is careful about what it reports, so I absolutely believe it. And am truly shocked. They also said that this will not be solved but swept under the table, the case has been declared closed by Swedish police (and I suspect the politicians).
Melzer report (german)

https://www.republik.ch/2020/01/31/n...yzQSsZrl0n0II8
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Old 03.02.2020, 23:05
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There is even an English version (link was in the German version )

edit: fixed the link.

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There is even an English version (link was in the German version )
Except the link doesn't work.
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Old 04.02.2020, 00:23
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Re: Assange should man up and not run

Greetings from 1984.

Switzerland needs to get this man out of GB and grant him asylum.
We always praise our "humanitarian tradition". When European (continent) states have dropped so low to corruption, Switzerland must stand for what we say we so deeply believe in and do our part.

I knew it has become pretty bad but this is beyond my imagination. At the moment I feel physically sick.
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Re: Assange should man up and not run

I just came to post that, this is chilling reading, and from the UNs own expert. The whole affair stank from the start but to see it laid out clinically like that is horrifying. Kudos to Republik for the scoop.
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Old 07.02.2020, 03:18
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Re: Assange should man up and not run

I'm stunned how few (6 people) bothered about this thread since UN Special Rapporteur on Torture; Human Rights, Nils Melzer, spoke up in detail.
The perceived injustice done to members by mods stirs up the emotions instead. And so does guessing why some members made use of their specific rights to leave a forum without any explanation. Explanations one doesn't even have to give when quitting their job here.

However, with delight I found out that the city of Geneva already in April 2019 demanded what I did a few days ago: That Switzerland must grant Assange asylum here.
Now a group was formed in Basel <<Trägerverein «AAA – Appell Asyl für Assange>> and there is a petition to sign on their website. Even in English!

Maybe at least those six people who took note want to sign. I really hope you do. And of course I very much hope that many others will realize what's on the line here. For Assange but very much for all of us who believe in constitutionality. It's not God given/natural, we have to fight for it every day. These days a bit more than on others.

For those who prefer the Twitter-style, Nils Melzer is on Twitter!
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I'm stunned how few (6 people) bothered about this thread since UN Special Rapporteur on Torture; Human Rights, Nils Melzer, spoke up in detail.
The perceived injustice done to members by mods stirs up the emotions instead. And so does guessing why some members made use of their specific rights to leave a forum without any explanation. Explanations one doesn't even have to give when quitting their job here.

However, with delight I found out that the city of Geneva already in April 2019 demanded what I did a few days ago: That Switzerland must grant Assange asylum here.
Now a group was formed in Basel <<Trägerverein «AAA – Appell Asyl für Assange>> and there is a petition to sign on their website. Even in English!

Maybe at least those six people who took note want to sign. I really hope you do. And of course I very much hope that many others will realize what's on the line here. For Assange but very much for all of us who believe in constitutionality. It's not God given/natural, we have to fight for it every day. These days a bit more than on others.

For those who prefer the Twitter-style, Nils Melzer is on Twitter!
Yeah, I thought it was going to get more traction too, well done switzerland.
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Old 08.02.2020, 12:51
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I'm stunned how few (6 people) bothered about this thread since UN Special Rapporteur on Torture; Human Rights, Nils Melzer, spoke up in detail.
I'm not sure what to add after that. Just because people don't reply it doesn't mean they support how he's been treated. I have mixed feelings about it and my feelings have shifted over time.

Assange might have been mistreated by Sweden, but at the same time, he's an educated man from a rich country who chose to start a website that was bound to piss off a lot of governments. He knew what he was doing and he did it because he thought it was right. To expect poking a bear won't wake it up is a bit naiive and to be honest, he doesn't strike me as a dummy.

I do think he had no choice but to seek asylum somewhere, given the reach of the U.S. government. He was welcomed and housed by the Ecuadorian Embassy but he wore out that welcome and even sued his hosts because they wanted him to clean up after himself and his cat. Then again, if I was "forced" to stay in a small area for several years, couldn't go out for a walk or take a vacation, etc. I might also go a bit nuts.

So...I'm waiting to see more information, while keeping in mind that some of the information we've been fed before was false.
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So...I'm waiting to see more information, while keeping in mind that some of the information we've been fed before was false.

Oh the irony...
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Old 08.02.2020, 19:47
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Yeah, I thought it was going to get more traction too, well done switzerland.
Why are you blaming Switzerland if the Brits and the Amricans (maybe the Swedish as well but I don't know who is Swedish on EF) don't care that their government ignores all laws? Worse: They still claim it's Assange fault for letting the world know what they're doing. (Because not knowing was so much more comfortable and now this stupid United Nations Special Rapporteur has done it as well. He should be burnt on the same pyre as Assang, I guess ).

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I'm not sure what to add after that. Just because people don't reply it doesn't mean they support how he's been treated. I have mixed feelings about it and my feelings have shifted over time.

Assange might have been mistreated by Sweden, but at the same time, he's an educated man from a rich country who chose to start a website that was bound to piss off a lot of governments. He knew what he was doing and he did it because he thought it was right. To expect poking a bear won't wake it up is a bit naiive and to be honest, he doesn't strike me as a dummy.

I do think he had no choice but to seek asylum somewhere, given the reach of the U.S. government. He was welcomed and housed by the Ecuadorian Embassy but he wore out that welcome and even sued his hosts because they wanted him to clean up after himself and his cat. Then again, if I was "forced" to stay in a small area for several years, couldn't go out for a walk or take a vacation, etc. I might also go a bit nuts.

So...I'm waiting to see more information, while keeping in mind that some of the information we've been fed before was false.
You obviously did not seriously read the report by Melzer. Assange overstayed his welcome? Trump did his blackmail trick .... in the report btw.

More information - of the old type, you mean? You'll get it, no doubt.
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I'm stunned how few (6 people) bothered about this thread since UN Special Rapporteur on Torture; Human Rights, Nils Melzer, spoke up in detail.
The perceived injustice done to members by mods stirs up the emotions instead. And so does guessing why some members made use of their specific rights to leave a forum without any explanation. Explanations one doesn't even have to give when quitting their job here.

However, with delight I found out that the city of Geneva already in April 2019 demanded what I did a few days ago: That Switzerland must grant Assange asylum here.
Now a group was formed in Basel <<Trägerverein «AAA – Appell Asyl für Assange>> and there is a petition to sign on their website. Even in English!

Maybe at least those six people who took note want to sign. I really hope you do. And of course I very much hope that many others will realize what's on the line here. For Assange but very much for all of us who believe in constitutionality. It's not God given/natural, we have to fight for it every day. These days a bit more than on others.

For those who prefer the Twitter-style, Nils Melzer is on Twitter!
I hope he gets put in prison in America. That way all the peoples lives he put in danger by releasing protected information can at least see some justice done.

Love the way he hid in the Ecuador embassy as a political prisoner until even the Ecuadorians has had enough and told him to get out.
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Yeah, I thought it was going to get more traction too, well done switzerland.
The UN rapporteurs report is certainly a significant document but many people already thought the Swedish case was suspicious and lacking credibility.

So really it was not so new, just confirmed what people thought.
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I hope he gets put in prison in America.
Screw America.

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I hope he gets put in prison in America. That way all the peoples lives he put in danger by releasing protected information can at least see some justice done.
Justice would be that they are all arrested, tried, and executed for their war crimes.

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...You obviously did not seriously read the report by Melzer. Assange overstayed his welcome? Trump did his blackmail trick .... in the report btw.

More information - of the old type, you mean? You'll get it, no doubt.
I didn't read the whole thing, because frankly it was written as if it was propaganda, just from the other side. Assange is neither 100% victim nor 100% hero. The truth lies somewhere in the middle.
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